[Dr. Eckleburg]

I have no idea why you two have pinged the Admin Moderator, but nonetheless, here's my response.

Protestants are continually being called “bigots” on the forum for simply disagreeing with the papacy.

We’ve been called terrible names, some too vile to even repeat. We've been subjected to unimaginable visual assaults in the form of cat pictures. And when we respond by saying “disagreement is not bigotry,” we are shouted down with even nastier invectives.

There’s nothing offensive in this article. It simply points out the double-standard Rome exhibits and the kid gloves Roman Catholic apologists demand everyone wear when discussing theology with them.

I was asked why we discuss Roman Catholicism. Here’s the answer...again...

1) We discuss a variety of faiths; Roman Catholicism is one of them.

2) Contrary to what some Roman Catholic apologists would like the world to believe, the papacy is very political. And this being a political forum, it is only natural conservatives would stand up and rebuke the pope's recent encyclical where he urges the formation of a "global authority" with the power of enforcement "with teeth." I bought the bound copy of the pope's encyclical and read it. It is pure socialism bordering on communism. It seeks to put the sovereignty of the United States under the control of some "global authority" with the power and purpose to regulate this country's military defense, taxation and finances, health care, social institutions, food distribution, environmental concerns and immigration policies.

If Harry Reid had written that encyclical, conservatives would be tarring and feathering the old bird. And rightly so.

3) We consider ourselves to be Christian. When Roman Catholics tell us that "Christian" means to pray to saints and to view the priest as "another Christ" and to label Mary as a "co-redeemer," we, as Christians, feel obligated by the Gospel to say "No, that is not how we have so learned Christ."

As Bible-believing Christians, we believe we have not only the joy of preaching the Gospel, but the obligation to do so with as much truth and clarity as we can muster. That does not mean we are to be intentionally offensive. But as has been shown on the forum for years, any disagreement with Rome is seen as "offensive" to some Roman Catholics.

Who to follow? God or men?

A good example of this occurred today when Alamo-Girl asked a few Roman Catholics if they considered her "anti-Catholic." And one Roman Catholic poster responded that yes, she could be viewed in some small way, as "anti-Catholic" because she said she doesn't follow the traditions of men. And the Roman Catholic took offense at this remark, believing that she was labeling his faith as "the traditions of men."

But taking a step back and really looking at A-G's response, who would disagree with A-G that it is wrong to follow the doctrines of men? She went out of her way to give an inoffensive response which simply stated her belief and yet she was still accused of being "anti-Catholic."

Doesn't it ever occur to Roman Catholics that this is the very reason why the Reformation came about? Because men disagreed with Rome's interpretation of the Scriptures and rather than work things out, Rome excommunicated/executed those who raised their voice in protest.

"So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the Gospel to you that are at Rome also.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith." -- Romans 1:15-17

[Quix]

INDEED TO THE MAX.

WELL PUT.

ENTIRELY ACCURATE.

Exceedingly more gentle than deserved, imho.

[Quix]

It usually appears to me

that the mods are pinged by the rabid cliques of the Papists because they are used to

whining, wailing, pulling on the apron strings of ‘higher authority’ in efforts to get other folks in as much trouble as possible.

We could be slightly charitable about that, I suppose, . . . considering how their arguments don’t hold water; their demeanor is horrid; their logic is nonexistent; their Biblies & histories rubberized and shredded . . . what else do they really have but whining to authority figures?

[Judith Anne]

We've been subjected to unimaginable visual assaults in the form of cat pictures.

This has to be a joke. Honestly, what is the limit to whining.

Protestants are continually being called “bigots” on the forum for simply disagreeing with the papacy.

Nobody cares if protties disagree. When untruths are told, there is definitely an objection. When protties tell us what we believe, there is definitely an objection. And when protties call names, there is definitely an objection.

And this being a political forum, it is only natural conservatives would stand up and rebuke the pope's recent encyclical where he urges the formation of a "global authority" with the power of enforcement "with teeth." I bought the bound copy of the pope's encyclical and read it. It is pure socialism bordering on communism. It seeks to put the sovereignty of the United States under the control of some "global authority" with the power and purpose to regulate this country's military defense, taxation and finances, health care, social institutions, food distribution, environmental concerns and immigration policies.

A perfect example of the UNTRUTHS posted by anti-Catholic bigots on FR. This has been refuted more than once, elsewhere.

3) We consider ourselves to be Christian. When Roman Catholics tell us that "Christian" means to pray to saints and to view the priest as "another Christ" and to label Mary as a "co-redeemer," we, as Christians, feel obligated by the Gospel to say "No, that is not how we have so learned Christ."

Point to any Catholic who has told you any of that garbage. Impossible, because it has not been done. This is another example of the falsehoods of the anti-Catholic bigots.

We’ve been called terrible names, some too vile to even repeat.

Any names as bad as "Vatican agents"? As bad as "socialists"? As bad as "Marble Mary toe-kissers"? As bad as "rabid RCCs"?

Apparently protties get all lathered up when they are called on their untruths. I've never seen so many big blue sermons or lengthy complaints as when the TRUTH about prottie behavior on the RF is finally told.

The simple truth is that there is a small, vicious core of anti-Catholic bigots on FR. If the shoe fits, wear it.

[xone]

I went to bed 10 minutes too early. Very nice.

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3) We consider ourselves to be Christian. When Roman Catholics tell us that "Christian" means to pray to saints and to view the priest as "another Christ" and to label Mary as a "co-redeemer," we, as Christians, feel obligated by the Gospel to say "No, that is not how we have so learned Christ."

You are spot on!

Matt. 10:32 Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will confess before My Father who is in heaven.

We really don't have a choice. We can preach Christ Crucified and condemn the Marian heresy, or we can be "ecumenical" and act like worshiping Mary is not wrong.

[MarkBsnr]

Protestants are continually being called “bigots” on the forum for simply disagreeing with the papacy.

The anti Catholic bigots all use the same terminology in the same today as they did 150 years ago. We see it in almost every thread. More than disagreement. Vicious bigotry of which a regular group contributes more than its share.

We’ve been called terrible names, some too vile to even repeat.

Take it up with these guys.

We've been subjected to unimaginable visual assaults in the form of cat pictures.

We consider ourselves to be Christian.

The Royal 'We'?

Matthew 24: 4 4 Jesus said to them in reply, "See that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Messiah,' and they will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars 5 and reports of wars; see that you are not alarmed, for these things must happen, but it will not yet be the end. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be famines and earthquakes from place to place. 8 6 All these are the beginning of the labor pains. 9 7 Then they will hand you over to persecution, and they will kill you. You will be hated by all nations because of my name. 10 And then many will be led into sin; they will betray and hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and deceive many; 12 and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations, 8 and then the end will come.

When you reject the gospel of Calvin and Machen and correctly understand Paul, and above all, accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Church that He Created, then that fits the definition of Christian.