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To: dsc
And I couldn’t be happier if the scales fell from your eyes and mind and you finally understood the difference between religious art and idols, then returned to the One, Holy, and Apostolic Church.

And so then my church is one 'unholy' church disconnected with any Apostles??? What's that make you, a polite bigot???

Your religion is not described in the scriptures as the church Jesus founded...You even claim that scripture is not enough to describe your religion...Your religious tradition fills in the holes and smoothes out the bumps...

There is a Christianity and a church described in the scriptures alone and it clearly ain't yours...You had to create your unbiblical tradition to build your unbiblical religion and then try to get scripture to match up with it, which it doesn't...

And you don't believe an American citizen in America should be able to publically point this out...Your religion has tried (all too often, sucessfully) to silence it's opposition for centuries...And you're still trying...If only you could bring in another Inquisition, eh???

So now you are appealing to the sensitivities of the liberal feel-gooders to turn them against freedom of religion and freedom from religion (yours) and freedom of speech...Well, you are not the first nor will you be the last...

809 posted on 02/25/2010 2:05:46 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

Please allow some slight correction:

What’s that make you, a farcically polite, OUTRAGEOUSLY !!!!DEMANDING!!!! insufferably hostile, insufferably ARROGANT bigot???


815 posted on 02/25/2010 2:28:02 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool; Quix; wmfights; the_conscience; UriÂ’el-2012; editor-surveyor; Marysecretary
And so then my church is one 'unholy' church disconnected with any Apostles?

That's what they want you to believe, that one day you found a bible, picked it up and started interpreting it for yourself. Yet, Romans 10:

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

and we are among those at the ends of the earth to whom the gospel is preached, and hearing, we believed.

There is no other way for us to have received the word of Christ except it has come down to us out of the Great Commission.

Yet, scratch Catholic doctrine and they will assert only they (some sort of elect) born into a belief, who for the most part never became born again, possibly do not even know what that is, never heard the gospel preached and subsequently believed it, preferring instead the words of the catechism handed out to them at a young age to the truth of the bible.

And scratch some more, and you will probably find that they think that the Roman Catholic church only contains all the believers drawn out of all the nations of the earth, found in the Book of Revelation.

Your Apostle is inferior to their Apostle, you are only an unpedigreed mutt, they have papers don'tcha see--- some kind of imaginary relationship from Peter to the Pontifex Maximus of the present day, give or take a 400 year gap in there.

You can't prove that your ordained pastor is any good at all, he doesn't have a big long genealogy which he made up to impress you. All he has is the word of Christ. If he didn't you would not have been convicted of your sins and become a Christian. The only proof he has is you. Somehow I think it will hold up in God's court.

Furthermore, since infant baptism gives them all, including the Hitlers, the serial killers, all wicked rulers in high places found among them, the power of the Holy Spirit will take them all to heaven, because after all, they are in the church

You however, belong to a defective sect, a church of one, only able to rely on the word of God and the HS that you received at your conversion.

818 posted on 02/25/2010 3:53:32 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Iscool
And so then my church is one 'unholy' church disconnected with any Apostles???

The Church of Iscool (population one) does not claim any connection with the Apostles that I know of. The Holy LaZBoy front and center of the Holy Sports Screen was unknown in those days.

There is a Christianity and a church described in the scriptures alone and it clearly ain't yours.

You may wish to renew your lens prescription. It most clearly is for those of us with eyes to see and ears to hear.

848 posted on 02/25/2010 4:53:50 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Iscool; wmfights; RnMomof7; the_conscience; editor-surveyor; UriÂ’el-2012
Furthermore, even if Peter was of some primacy among the apostles, we have no biblical evidence that he ever went to Rome, unless he referred to Rome as Babylon and maybe Catholics don't wish to go there.

The bible also teaches that the church is led first by the Apostles and then others of lower rank.

1 Cor 12:28

And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles .

Also there is not "one rock, Peter" upon which the church is founded, there is the cornerstone which is Christ and there's actually 24 pillars as we see both from Revelation 4:10, and Ephesians 2 :

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

The Apostle John lived 30 years or so after Peter, and he would have been the true Apostolic successor, not the lower ranked bishops of Rome. Why would he, and when did he, abdicate his position in the church?

And of course, the history and the character of the Catholic Popes themselves is mind-boggling,and many were not fit to hold such a high office, of the one true church let alone the little problem they had with two or three popes claiming the office at the same time.

851 posted on 02/25/2010 4:59:40 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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