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To: Iscool; wagglebee; Cronos
The first thing I will say is it is beyond ANYONE's understanding...But people don't let that get in the way of their apparent need to understand...

The phrase which you used was "Jesus is still separate from God...As is the Holy Spirit...

You used it while lecturing my FRiend wagglebee about his alleged misunderstanding of the Trinity, but your own statement shows a clear misunderstanding of the Trinity. Yeah maybe nobody can really explain it, but to state that "Jesus is separate from God" is to show your own clear misunderstanding either of the Trinity or of the word "God" or of the word "separate".

There is no difference between the Latin Rite understanding of the Trinity and the Reformation understanding. My FRiend wagglebee is nothing, if not Orthodox in his trinitarian understanding. We may part company on other doctrinal issues, but on the Trinity I think that we are in Communion, so to speak.

My point is that if you are going to accuse someone of having a fundamental misunderstanding of the Trinity, that you had better be able to articulate what you mean without throwing out some statement that would not only be scripturally inaccurate, but historically heretical.

Maybe you might want to rephrase what you said.

1,104 posted on 02/26/2010 7:51:33 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
There is no difference between the Latin Rite understanding of the Trinity and the Reformation understanding.

Thank you for confirming that. I certainly wasn't aware of any difference, but it's still nice to be certain.

There are certain doctrinal differences between Reformed, Catholic and Orthodox Christians, but there are also certain core beliefs where we have 100% agreement and the Holy Trinity is one of them.

1,109 posted on 02/26/2010 7:56:38 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: P-Marlowe; Iscool; wagglebee; Cronos
For the discussion, I'd like to offer two Scriptures which attest the Trinity to me:

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. – Isaiah 9:6

God's Name is I AM.

1,153 posted on 02/26/2010 8:41:16 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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