Posted on 02/24/2010 9:36:26 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
***.....you mean “denominations that were founded by false prophets 1500 years afterwards count? ****
False prophets?
You mean like the false prophets at Trent, who anathematized the Gospel?
Exactly. When they ask us why we give a hoot about their Roman Catholic church and its anti-Scriptural practices and beliefs it is because of the very thing you bring up -- they seek to rewrite history, and in so doing, they attempt to rewrite the history of the Christian church, as well as confusing and even defying the word of God.
Truth matters.
"For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth." -- Psalm 33:4
INDEED.
DOESN’T WASH.
Prottys are not the ones !!!!DEMANDING!!!!
Papists conform to our dictionary.
Prottys are not the ones reacting with such
OUTRAGEOUS ARROGANT HOSTILITY AND PERSONAL ASSAULTS
to Protty comments about organizational perspectives, dogma, doctrines, practices.
Prottys are not the ones with the chronic thin skin.
etc. etc. etc.
Your remedy sounds extreme, but hey, whatever works.
I think most of us would rather that the
Papists NOT sing Kum Bye Ya.
It would undoubtedly be in a chorus of raspy, cranky, whiney voices that would be worse than chalk on a blackboard screeching.
That would make Jesus Christ Anti-Papist.
LOL.
Thanks for your kind reply.
Sure appears that way to me.
Thanks for your kind reply.
More historical revisionism! LOL.
lol. A lot of us have found no amount of proficiency nor clarity can make up for a lack of eyes to see and ears to hear.
The word “catholic” means “universal,” as in the universal Christian church referenced in the Nicene Creed.
Since the Roman Catholic church is not universal, the word means something different when prefaced by “Roman.” It means allegiance to the papacy.
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INDEED.
"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36
Probably until things get really dramatic in these END TIMES and God is causing all those who Love Him Supremely in a given area to work together more or less without boundaries.
Even then, there will likely be Rabid Papists throwing rocks at what God is obviously doing.
And, if recent encyclical trends hold, they may be throwing more than rocks from the ranks of other globalist troops.
INCREDIBLE.
Exactly. When they ask us why we give a hoot about their Roman Catholic church and its anti-Scriptural practices and beliefs it is because of the very thing you bring up — they seek to rewrite history, and in so doing, they attempt to rewrite the history of the Christian church, as well as confusing and even defying the word of God.
Truth matters.
“For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.” — Psalm 33:4
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INDEED.
Actually, that would make St Peter an Anti-Papist, too.
Absolutely! It is quite an indication of the carnal mind of the Roman Church - As is the insistence that Christ was formed of Mary's DNA (which is not proven, but only assumed), so she also must be sinless to contain and contribute to Christ (her sinlessness is confounded by the Scriptures)...
Presuming to define MYSTERIES like these lead to all sorts of blasphemy.
WELL SAID.
LOL! There's a cold PBR in the fridge if you are desperate enough to drive up here... :P
Can you imagine the expressions on the faces of the Apostles assembled watching a man being carried arround on a “bier” when he ain’t even dead yet; in fact sitting up up on a throne in kingly apparel with throngs “attached to him” by being in this form of “Catholic” Church, being lauded and the world being enthralled before him him?
SD, the old man dies, the new man lives.
When a believer sins, they no longer abide in fellowship with Him, although He still abides in us.
When God the Holy Spirit indwells us, we are never commanded for Him to indwell us, rather His indwelling is purely by the Sovereign free will of God. That is why He seals us and places a regenerate human spirit in us at the time of salvation. That newly regenerated human spirit cannot be destroyed, but it only can return to Him at His timing.
The new man is composed of our body, sou, and spirit.
The old man, the natural man, is composed of our scarred body and soul, which is dead to Him.
We are identified with our soul and spirit. Our old man, in the scarred soul, is slowly rehabilitated or sanctified by the work of God the Holy Spirit, first through the human spirit, then while we remain in fellowship with Him, through our mind, then our heart, the 2 compartments of the soul.
When faced with a testing, some which are temptations, we are free to operate through faith in Christ, or through the old man. When we fail to remain in fellowship with Him, it might simply be by focusing on anything OTHER than Him, thereby grieving the Holy Spirit (sin, missing the mark of our proper aim by His Plan). When ever we sin, (not necessarily immorality, although immorality is sinful, I use the term sin directly, as ANYTHING other than the proper aiming point which is ALWAYS ONLY through faith in Christ) we fall out of fellowship with Him, but that doesn’t mean the human spirit departs from us nor that He departs as God the Holy Spirit from us.
Rather, whenever we sin, we are the ones who have turned away from Him. God is ALWAYS faithful. Our separation from Him is not due to Him turning away, it is from our turning away from Him, not being faithful to Him.
Even when Christ has fully reconciled us to God, we still have the ability to look at anything OTHER than God and fall out of fellowship.
We return to fellowship by turning back to Him, then confessing our sins, i.e. looking at anything BUT Him, and He is sure and just to forgive us those sins, thereby restoring our fellowship with Him.
This is not a license to sin, rather because the old man was already condemned for sin in Adam prior to us as believers ever having faith or belief, not ever having a regenerate human spirit in our anthropology prior to belief, AND because that penalty of sin has now been paid for on the Cross, God is now free to continually indwell the believer by His volition, ie. by His Sovereign decision to remain in us, something we do not experience, but He performs at His decision.
When we sin, we don’t get away with anything. Rather, many believers are simply bouncing back and forth between being outside the tabernacle and entering the tabernacle in order to be in the place where God the Holy Spirit can continue His sanctifying work in our soul. Likewise, by our soul not being further cleansed, we don’t have the amenities to make the right decisions when faced with testing at the proper time and place by His Plan, when we are not in fellowship with Him. This results in us not qualifying with our works, while out of fellowship with Him, as being recognizable as righteous works by Divine standards at the bema seat, thereby resulting in the rewards pre-made for us from eternity past, not being rewarded to us for all eternity future.
We still have eternal life, and are saved from the Lake of Fire, but have likely lost rewards at the bema seat, when we sin or fall out of fellowship with Him. Again refocus on sin not as immorality, but more broadly simply missing the target He has provided for us in His Plan. When we miss, there isn’t a reward from the miss, but we don’t loose all rewards nor eternal life.
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