A Quantum Hologram of Christ's Resurrection? (Fabric of Time)

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2009/847/print/ ^ | Feb 22, 2010 | Chuck Missler

[zot]

Is this similar to your theory?

I don't know anything about "quantum holograms" and I doubt the assertion that there is no distortion in the image on the shroud, but from the NT reports, it seems obvious that his body was dematerialized in the tomb, and then re-materialized and dematerialized again in the upper room.

[Nabber]

“Do we really need an old piece of cloth as proof? That’s why it’s called faith my friends, because we don’t need proof to believe.”

If you had been there at the moment of Resurrection, would you need faith to believe in Christ? NO, you wouldn’t. You saw it happen, after all. And so, neither did the Apostles and the 500 who saw the resurrected Christ.

The point is, that Christ’s Resurrection is not only an article of faith, but also IT WAS A REAL PHYSICAL FACT/HAPPENING, AND THE SHROUD ATTESTS TO IT, AND YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN A REAL PHYSICAL FACT/HAPPENING HAD YOU BEEN THERE....

Christ’s story is not just “faith”, it really happened.

Ask yourself if you would today toss away a “video” (had that been possible in ancient times) of the parting of the Red Sea because, you reason, you don’t really need it because you have “faith” that the Bible says it happened.

[TaraP]

Scientists have failed to identify blood on the Shroud of Turin. Not True................... Immunological, fluorescence and spectrographic tests, as well as Rh and ABO typing of blood antigens, reveal that the stains are human blood. Many of the bloodstains have the distinctive forensic signature of clotting with red corpuscles about the edge of a clot with a clear yellowish halo of serum. The heme was converted into its parent porphyrin, and the spectra examined. This too, revealed the fact that bloodstains are blood. Microchemical tests for proteins were positive in blood areas. Much of this work is published in peer reviewed scientific journals including Archeological Chemistry: Organic, Inorganic, and Biochemical Analysis (American Chemical Society), Applied Optics and the Canadian Society of Forensic Sciences Journal.

[beefree]

Not if the body is hovering and the sheet above it is hovering over it when ‘blast’ of radiation created the image like a photograph.

[Nabber]

“I doubt the assertion that there is no distortion in the image on the shroud”.

Yeah, I’m an expert just like you, and I doubt you exist. Don’t you love bold, unsubstantiated expert testimony?

[fish hawk]

You lost me. Why would it what? You paint your face with fresh paint or any kind of stain and let me put a towel over your face and then take off the towel and see what the image looks like. The sides of you head and ear area will be going out to the right and left and look like a horizontal oval shape. Now if I just did the very front of your face your hair which is in back and your ears which are down the sides would not show.

[DManA]

You can read the science of the Shroud, such as total lack of gravity, lack of entropy (without gravitational collapse), no time, no space—it conforms to no known law of physics.”

What in the world is he talking about?

[TaraP]

The Shroud is not paint, and what you said does not make any sense...

You would have to paint your ears, fold a fabric over your ears and lay it out, and I have never seen someone do that on a peice of cloth...Have you?

[Joe 6-pack]

"That’s why it’s called faith my friends, because we don’t need proof to believe."

The fundamental underpinning of Christianity, the belief that God became physically human, and corporeally manifest to walk among mankind, is one based on physical proof. If "The Word" were adequate, there would have been no need for the Word to be made Flesh.

[beefree]

total lack of gravity, I think, means it was levitating above the slab, therefore, the underside of the body was not pressed flat as it would if it was against the slab. IIRC, theory might be that radiation came FROM the body, creating a ‘photograph’ on the cloth.

[DManA]

The floating theory seems like total speculation to explain the alleged lack of distortion. I’ve never seen anyone with a face like the shroud face.

[beefree]

Watch the documentary if you can, the physicists give a better explaination than the clumsy one I can give.

[timestax]

Well I think the figure looks a lot like FRANK ZAPPA in the face, and don't think JESUS CHRIST looked like Zappa. The Bible says he looked like any other Jew living in the area at that time, and that he could pass through crowds because of that. Indeed , we all know how that JUDAS had to give him a kiss to let his enemies know who HE was.

[TaraP]

I could never explain it..You should watch the film!

Well worth it!

[GreyFriar]

That’s close enough for me. :)

[TaraP]

Maybe Frank Zappa looks like the Jews in Ancient Israel...

*Faceplam)

Do we have an photos of what the Jews looked like in Israel
when Jesus was walking about???

[fish hawk]

I could do it to you. All it takes is your cooperation. Now, if it was radiation shooting out, would it only shoot out through the face or out from all over the round head? According to the picture it only projected out the face and nothing on the sides of the head or the body.

And as my statement, why would a sheet stay straight out over a body and now settle down the sides. At night does not your sheep drape down the sides and around your body? Now if by some miracle it stays flat, that would explain the picture. I don't get your problem with logic and common sense.

[the long march]

After being beaten and abused by Roman guards,then having a crown of thorns ( and these were particularly nasty large ones) shoved down on your skull, and being crucified my guess is that your face wouldn’t look to good either

[TaraP]

I don’t get your problem with logic and common sense.
But that’s not either.....

What you are making is assumptions how the body was laid in the tomb....

Do you know that much about radiation and how it works in something like this event?

[timestax]

Oh YEAH, you are probably 100% correct...The Jewish men prolly all looked just exactly like Frank Zappa !