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Are Books of Scripture Missing from the Bible? (Ecumenical)
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Posted on 02/19/2010 7:42:49 AM PST by restornu

The so-called lost books of the Bible are those documents that are mentioned in the Bible in such a way that it is evident they were considered authentic and valuable, but that are not found in the Bible today. Sometimes called missing scripture, they consist of at least the following:

Book of the Wars of the Lord Numbers 21:14

Book of Jasher Joshua 10:13; 2 Samuel 1:18

Book of the acts of Solomon 1 Kings 11:41

Book of Samuel the seer 1 Chronicles 29:29

Book of Gad the seer 1 Chronicles 29:29

Book of Nathan the prophet 1 Chronicles 29:29; 2 Chronicles 9:29

Prophecy of Ahijah 2 Chronicles 9:29

Visions of Iddo the Seer 2 Chronicles 9:29; 12:15; 13:22

Book of Shemaiah 2 Chronicles 12:15

Book of Jehu 2 Chronicles 20:34

Sayings of the Seers 2 Chronicles 33:19

An epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, earlier than our present 1 Corinthians 1 Corinthians 5:9

An earlier epistle to the Ephesians Ephesians 3:3

Epistle to the Laodiceans Colosians 4:16

Prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude Jude 1:14

Book of the covenant Exodus 24:7 (may or may not be included in the current book of Exodus)

The Manner of the Kingdom, written by Samuel 1 Samuel 10:25

Acts of Uzziah, written by Isaiah 2 Chronicles 26:22

The "Acts of Abijah...in the Story of the Prophet Iddo" 2 Chronicles 13:22 (seems to not be the same as the Prophecy of Ahijah or the Visions of Iddo)

The foregoing items attest to the fact that our present Bible does not contain all of the word of the Lord that He gave to His people in former times, and remind us that the Bible, in its present form, is rather incomplete. Matthew's reference to a prophecy that Jesus would be a Nazarene (2:23) is interesting when it is considered that our present Old Testament seems to have no such statement. There is a possibility, however, that Matthew alluded to Isaiah 11:1, which prophesies of the Messiah as a Branch from the root of Jesse, the father of David. The Hebrew word for branch in this case is netzer, the source word of Nazarene and Nazareth. Additional references to the Branch as the Savior and Messiah are found in Jeremiah 23:5; 33:15; Zechariah 3:8; 6:12; these use a synonymous Hebrew word for branch, tzemakh.

Luke noted (Luke 1:1) that "many" had written about "those things which are most surely believed among us," yet our Bible has only two earlier Gospels, those of Matthew and Mark (John having been written after Luke). The Bible doesn't contain the earlier books to which Luke had reference. The books of 1-2 Kings frequently speak of the "rest of the acts" of the kings contained in the Chronicles of the Kings of Judah and the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel. Some readers undoubtedly believe that these refer to the books known as 1 and 2 Chronicles in our present Bibles. But an examination of the latter shows that they generally do not reveal any of the additional information about these kings that we expect to find there. Moreover, there is good evidence that the biblical books of Chronicles are really later reworkings of 2 Samuel and 1-2 Kings, with deletion of much more material than they add. Consequently, they cannot be the chronicles referred to in the earlier books.

Another reference to a writing not found in the Bible is in 2 Chronicles 35:25, where we read that Jeremiah's lamentation for the slain king Josiah is "written in the lamentations." Many Bible readers have assumed that Josiah is the "anointed of the Lord...taken in their pits," mentioned in Lamentations 4:20. There are two problems with this identification, however: 1) The book of Lamentations was written after the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC, two decades after the death of Josiah, and 2) The "anointed of the Lord" taken in the pit clearly refers to the last king of Judah, Zedekiah, who, at the time the Babylonians took Jerusalem, was caught "in their pit" and taken captive to Babylon (Ezekiel 19:8-9). In connection with the Nazarene prophecy, we might add that the scriptural quotes by Jesus found in Luke 11:49 and John 7:38 are not found in today's Old Testament. Similar unsupported quotes are found in Ephesians 5:14 and James 4:5f, as well as in Acts 20:35, where Paul attributes to Jesus a saying found nowhere else in the Bible, including the Gospels.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: antimormonthread; bible; christian; ecumenical; lds; lostbooks; mormon
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To: reaganaut

Yet another strawman? What a surprise!


361 posted on 02/27/2010 10:36:23 AM PST by TheDon
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To: reaganaut

What are all these “if”s, I thought you knew what I believed?


362 posted on 02/27/2010 10:37:20 AM PST by TheDon
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To: svcw

You can’t find it? What a surprise...


363 posted on 02/27/2010 10:38:15 AM PST by TheDon
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To: reaganaut

I think I’ll just save time and let you answer the question for me as you have already stated that you know what I believe better than I do.


364 posted on 02/27/2010 10:39:18 AM PST by TheDon
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To: reaganaut; Godzilla; svcw; MHGinTN
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365 posted on 02/27/2010 10:56:41 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)
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To: TheDon
Don’t be lazy, it’s all there.

Been there - found nothing even remotely resembling an answer. Are you afraid to even cite the post # for your answer?

366 posted on 02/27/2010 11:39:00 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39

Why popcorn. If his answers were corn - they would be rejected as inferior for popcorn and even hog farmers would reject it as lacking nutrition.


367 posted on 02/27/2010 11:41:01 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: TheDon; Godzilla; svcw; MHGinTN

Non answer noted.


368 posted on 02/27/2010 12:46:49 PM PST by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: TheDon

Take that as a no - got it.


369 posted on 02/27/2010 4:10:27 PM PST by svcw (If you are going to quote the Bible know what you are quoting.)
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Take that as a no - got it.

well, it could be taken as a no unless it was actually a yes instead of a maybe.

370 posted on 02/27/2010 4:30:55 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: reaganaut

Same here...


371 posted on 02/27/2010 4:52:48 PM PST by TheDon
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To: svcw

Take it as you like it, you always do anyway...


372 posted on 02/27/2010 4:53:23 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Godzilla

If you are too lazy to find it, I’m not going to waste my time either.


373 posted on 02/27/2010 4:54:18 PM PST by TheDon
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To: TheDon
If you are too lazy to find it, I’m not going to waste my time either.

Its not there, but please waste time posting here - your our best advertisement.

374 posted on 02/27/2010 4:59:29 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; svcw; MHGinTN; TheDon

let’s just leave the tar baby alone, it is apparent he is not going to give us an honest answer, so it is just a waste of energy.


375 posted on 02/27/2010 6:31:14 PM PST by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

I don’t know why you don’t answer, you have already said you know the answer better than I do.


376 posted on 02/27/2010 7:43:19 PM PST by TheDon
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To: Godzilla

It’s there, you just don’t want to embarrass yourself anymore .... :-)


377 posted on 02/27/2010 7:43:58 PM PST by TheDon
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To: TheDon

oh, you mean it was one of those many posts of yours that were pulled


378 posted on 02/27/2010 7:46:16 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: TheDon

smarmy is as smarmy does


379 posted on 02/27/2010 7:50:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: TheDon

I have answered. I have stated what I was taught and what the LDS church teaches (and therefore what most LDS believe). I was asking what you personally believe.

Now, if you choose not to tell us what you personally believe, we must assume that you are in agreement with LDS leaders and most LDS members that the Bible is corrupted and contains errors and thus is NOT sufficient for faith and doctrine.

IOW, your apparent obfuscation confirms my statement that you believe that the Bible is corrupt, regardless of your weak attempts at denying it.


380 posted on 02/27/2010 8:05:31 PM PST by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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