Posted on 01/30/2010 6:44:25 PM PST by Colofornian
Mooselimbs make nice neighbors and freindly co-workers, too, until their Imam tells them to kill the infidels, then you get a Ft Hood style massacre in alah’s name. I wonder, will Mormonism come to that if folks expose too much of the Mormonism lies and deceits? ... Have the Danites ever been disbanned and repudiated?
Christianity is binary. You are saved or you are not.
I am under no illusions that my nice neighbors would share their food stores with me if we were nuked.
LOL...
I think you just summed it up...
I often joke with my Catholic friends here in Mississippi that given their POV they are like Baptist with a thing for the Pope
I believe she is still LDS.
Vendome, correct me if I am wrong.
She is still LDS.
Awww...gee thanks vendome (the great girl comment). :)
And I didn’t realize it had posted 3x, OY, browser was freaking out last night.
And elsie gets up early to milk the goat. :)
;-)
Goat's been complaining about cold hands?
LOL
I've seen posts on another site that report that mormon "visiting teachers" are making lists of the stores and equipment that members have on hand. Since the vow of consecration taken in mormon temples by "worthy" members states,
One of the covenants we make with the Lord when we receive our temple endowments is to live the law of consecration. The Lord has called this law a celestial law, under which we give our time, talents, and possessions to build the Lord’s kingdom.
• Read Doctrine and Covenants 88:22 and D&C 105:1–5. Why must we understand the law of consecration and be willing to live it?
Concerning this law the Prophet Joseph Smith said, “A religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation” (Lectures on Faith [1985], 69).
As the Prophet explained, we must develop the kind of faith that will lead us to eternal life. Such faith comes as we put the things of God’s kingdom first in our lives. "
VOW of consecration in LDS temple ritual. "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion." NOTE: "The Kingdom of God" described here does not refer to the Kingdom of God as most Christians believe, and ZION is described here: "Zion is often used in this way to refer to the Lord's people or to the Church and its stakes (see D&C 82:14). It has also been used to refer to specific geographical locations. "
Embracing the Law of Consecration by Larry Barkdull Link
Has this to say:
We are expressly forbidden to hoard property or claim it as our own: “I command thee that thou shalt not covet thine own property….” Therefore, a Zion person’s claim to his property is subordinate to the Lord’s claim. As Martin Harris learned, property must be consecrated for the building up of the Kingdom of God and the establishment of Zion, which provides that no poor should exist among us. Ultimately we will be held accountable for the discharge of our stewardship.
A Zion person’s stewardship, sometimes referred to as “portion,” or “inheritance,” is to be used to support his own family, and then “conveying back to the Lord’s storehouse any surplus which accrued [for the poor].
Substitute The "The LDS church for "The Lord's, and "Bishop's Storehouse" for "The Lord's Storehouse".
I do not recall every being taught that the storage that members kept was to be shared with "gentile" neighbors.
every=ever
I thought they were pretty much required to have a year's worth of foodstores on hand.
Ah yes “the law of consecration”
Give everything to the morg...
What would a man of god say, who felt aright, when Joseph asked him for his money? He would say, “Yes, and I wish I had more to help to build up the kingdom of God.” Or if he came and said, “I want your wife?” “O Yes,” he would say, “here she is, there are plenty more.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, Feb. 19, 1854, pp.13-14)
Your head has been spinning for years.
“Being a bit of a latecomer to Christianity myself, this brought me great comfort and reassurance. I understand that the LDS church teaches a different doctrine than this biblical truth (surprise).”
They do ???
Well, even in Mormon circles they talk more in trinary & quadnary terms re: your potential salvation or outer darkness status.
Example: At the 2001 BYU Women's Conference, the professor of marriage and family therapy in the School of Family Life @ BYU (she was also chair of the BYU-Relief Society Women's Conferences for more than one year) was talking about female members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...
...when she talked about the spiritually upper-etchelon Mormon women -- those "whose life is saturated with the words of the Lord" -- then she could...
..."often hear unspoken sentences lodged in others' hearts. For example," she said,
"when her child says 'Leave me alone,' she is able to hear, 'Please don't leave me alone.'"
"When her husband says, 'I'm just not celestial material,' the Spirit can bless her to hear, 'Please show me how wrong I am to think I'm just not celestial material." (Wendy L. Watson, Ye Shall Bear Record of Me, pp. 265-266, Bookcraft)
So that's how Mormon couples communicate at home, eh?
"I'm just not celestial material."
"I'm just not cut out to become a god."
"My divine embryo status is petering out."
And then upon hearing that, the dutiful Mormon wife "re-translates" that into the exact programmed opposite:
"Dear, you are celestial material, after all!"
"Dear, you are Kolob star stuff!"
"Dear, you are my master god-in-embryo!"
Lds, I hate to break it to you: But none of us is god all-star pool material.
There is no divine draft where the gods reach down into Earth's bush leagues & draft future gods.
The Mormon system is not a minor league farm system for godhood development, after all.
Christlikeness & godliness does NOT equal divinity status. (And if you say then "Well why does the Bible say we're made in God's image?" I'd have to respond that since Lds believe that image is a physical one, does that then also mean that Lds women turn into male gods if they follow after that image? You can't have it both ways).
And the Mormon husband who concludes, "I'm just not celestial material" has finally taken a good look in the mirror & has painfully embraced a bit of truth. Hurrah to him!!!
OK, help me and BlueMoose out here. My understanding is that Mormons build what they call their “testimony” over the years. The earlier they start and the longer they are at it, the bigger and better their place in heaven becomes.
They earn “points”, and the more they have to cash in at the end, the bigger the prize.
That’s why those born into the church have an advantage, right? Those of you who came out of it, can you explain how it works?
Kinda. The theology is that (I was taught this and this was also taught by their leaders) is that those born LDS to temple married parents (called being ‘born in the covenant’ or BIC) were ‘more valiant’ in the pre-existance. This means that they were ‘better’ than some of the other spirits.
Converts, were less valiant than those born in the LDS church. Of course the younger you converted, the better you must have been.
There is this idea of earning ‘points’, the more faithful you are to the LDS church, the more ‘good works’ you do, attending the temple, doing your genealogy, bringing in converts, serving a faithful mission, etc. results in you achieving a higher level of ‘exaltation’ or ‘progression’ towards Godhood.
Those BIC have an advantage simply because they have a head start and knew the ‘truth’ earlier.
Hope this helps.
If szonian’s head has been spinning for years, it is only because of the spin control and the lies LDS, inc. has fed him.
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