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To: 1010RD; kosta50; boatbums; betty boop; Quix; getoffmylawn
Thank you for your encouragement, dear 1010RD!

I would not say that Moses' faith allowed the miracles, i.e. was required. God's will concerning Israel could not be thwarted.

And Moses said unto the LORD, O my Lord, I [am] not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I [am] slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.

And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

And he said, O my Lord, send, I pray thee, by the hand [of him whom] thou wilt send.

And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, [Is] not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart. And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.

And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, [even] he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs. - Exodus 4:10-17

In the above passage, by Moses' lack of faith, Israel was stuck with a priesthood. Aaron's lack of faith in the golden calf incident also applies, but by then Moses' faith had increased but too late to avert a priesthood (they could have just had a prophet.) Israel also later, for lack of faith, insisted on an earthy King...

God's will concerning Israel was not thwarted by their lack of faith.

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isaiah 46:9-10

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

1,453 posted on 02/18/2010 10:31:23 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
In the above passage, by Moses' lack of faith, Israel was stuck with a priesthood. Aaron's lack of faith in the golden calf incident also applies, but by then Moses' faith had increased but too late to avert a priesthood (they could have just had a prophet.) Israel also later, for lack of faith, insisted on an earthy King...

I do like the typo of earthy (archaic for worldly). Can you expound on the above? What do you mean stuck with a priesthood? Also, Aaron started the miracles in Egypt, stumbled (maybe? Some scholars argue that the calf was a symbol of Yahweh) at Sinai, but then is washed and anointed at the tabernacle and granted a priesthood. What are you getting at?

1,454 posted on 02/18/2010 10:44:04 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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