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To: caww
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The Scripture is public record. Read for yourself. Some matter is not covered there directly, but the topic of salvation is covered directly and extensively, and I pointed out where. It is not by faith alone, and it is not one-time event. St. Paul finished every letter with exhortation to good works, and it is by works primarily that we are judged. That judgement is described with great clarity in Matthew 25. If it is insulting to urge you to read the Holy Scripture, perhaps you need such an unpleasant stimulus to do so, especially if you are of the persuasion that the Bible rather than the Church is the rule of faith.

846 posted on 01/08/2010 4:24:45 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

First, I am more than familiar with scripture as are many on this thread, and other religious threads as well. I think maybe you might mean we each apply scripture differently to how we see faith, salvation, life and doctrines, etc.

For what I’ve studied Jesus’ crucifixtion and ressurection was a one-time event, and included in that He did indeed say...”It is finished.” I have no problem accepting a one-time event which covers it all..”once..and for all.” Just as was said.

As to my judgement for sin? That has and is paid for, done, and over....”Therefore, there is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus”... and how sweet that sound is indeed... And Those words were spoken directly after the apostle struggled with the question of sin...”who will save me?...” Pretty familiar struggle to me, and likely many.

I realize many in some churches have a difficult time accepting Christ did it all...and believe works are necessary and/or condem them in the herafter. But I have found only that rewards will be offered, and even these we will lay at his feet, for any good we do is from Him. His death either “finished” paying the price or not and if not we are all lost forever.

I can only agree we’ll disagree..and Christ to direct us all beyond that which can sometimes bind people.
For there is no such thing as a perfect church, it is indeed filled with sinners, and the only true thing that seperates us one from the other are those saved sinners and those who are not saved sinners....and they are all found within every church. That’s who we are...or will become.

We all do learn here on these threads but I think more would were it not for the bickering between these good debates and opinions shared. People jump to conclusions and strike with their words. (there is a difference of defending the faith and lashing out. When we lash out the rythum of the debate then gets lost as the battles of exchange rage. Guess we each need to discern why strike?


864 posted on 01/08/2010 6:30:31 PM PST by caww
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