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To: MarkBsnr
I don't know how you guys can, with a straight face, read a piece of simple scripture and ignore what it says and then add your own private interpretation to it...

1 Corinithians 9: 24 8 Do you not know that the runners in the stadium all run in the race, but only one wins the prize? Run so as to win. 25 Every athlete exercises discipline in every way. They do it to win a perishable crown, but we an imperishable one. 26 Thus I do not run aimlessly; I do not fight as if I were shadowboxing. 27 No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should be disqualified. 9

Disqualified? Condemned. Lose salvation.

Of course not...There's nothing in there about salvation...Paul says to run the race as if you are in a marathon and their is only one prize for one winner...

And then Paul goes on to say that since he has taken on the role of the teacher, he must set the best example...Because it would be a real pity if Paul as a teacher did not get a particular crown but some of his students did...Has nothing to do with salvation...

I do not even pass judgment on myself; 4 I am not conscious of anything against me, but I do not thereby stand acquitted; the one who judges me is the Lord.

Paul is saying that he does not even know if God will acquit him in His Judgement. Paul had great faith. Paul is telling us that it is possible that he could fall away.

No, Paul did not say that...You are making it up again...

1Co 4:4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.

Paul says he is justified and that there is only One that matters when it comes to judgement...

Philippians 2: 12 10 11 So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

It's all fun and games until you lose your salvation.

Nothing there about losing salvation...We've already learned numerous times that salvation is a free gift...You can't earn it...Therefore, you don't have to work for your salvation...

The verse does not say, 'work for your salvation'...It says you have salvation...Now, work it out...And why work it out???

Because your bad works will get burned up and you want to have some good works built up on your account so you won't appear naked when you appear before Jesus...

Has nothing to do with salvation...It all has to do with rewards...As the verse says, work out you salvation...That's salvation you already have...

8,341 posted on 02/04/2010 6:54:52 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Of course not...There's nothing in there about salvation...Paul says to run the race as if you are in a marathon and their is only one prize for one winner...

In this case the winner or loser is the individual. It is entirely 100 per cent about salvation.

1Co 4:4 For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Paul says he is justified and that there is only One that matters when it comes to judgement...

Read it again. Paul does not say that he is justified. He merely says that he is Judged by God, that he is not hereby justified and that he knows nothing by himself.

Philippians 2: 12 10 11 So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

It's all fun and games until you lose your salvation.

Nothing there about losing salvation...We've already learned numerous times that salvation is a free gift...You can't earn it...Therefore, you don't have to work for your salvation...

But you can lose it. All of our posts back and forth come down to this: Christians believe that man can reject the salvation of God and you claim no. You have no proofs and no strong evidence. The claimsthat there are different rewards in Heaven are idiotic since there is only one reward in Heaven - to be in the presence of Almighty God forever.

8,507 posted on 02/04/2010 4:44:11 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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