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To: annalex
Archangel Gabriel came with the divine foreknowledge of the future birth and reign of the Savior, hence the future tense in his speech.

So now omniscience is not a unique attribute of God? Angels have it as well???

He announced to Mary that WHICH WOULD BE because it had been ordained before the foundation of the world. There was no question of its accuracy.So how could that be so sure if Mary had the free will to say no?

But God's irresistible grace had preceded that announcement, her will had been changed by that grace and now her will was aligned with Gods.

Mary, however, did consent, as the Bible teaches us, in verse 38 of the scripture you quoted.

She acknowledged her agreement with the plan because God had ordained it to be so. The agreement was not an independent act for which Mary is due accolades. The agreement was an act of Gods grace in her for which He should get glory.. not her.

Interesting that one confessing the so-called believer baptism would not recognize one when he sees one.

So now you are calling this a baptism? Why would Mary need to be baptized you do no believe she had original sin right?

8,154 posted on 02/03/2010 9:50:07 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED.


8,176 posted on 02/03/2010 10:57:44 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7
The agreement was not an independent act for which Mary is due accolades.

That kind of depraved notion of the Annunciation turns the Holy Spirit into some kind of rapist.

Not consensual you say?

Sickening.

8,178 posted on 02/03/2010 10:59:43 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7

Angels are messengers of God. God is omniscient and has divine foreknowledge. Archangel Gabriel transmitted it.

The thing with free will is that it works with foreknowledge. God indeed had the foreknowldge of Mary’s answer, but that does not deprive her of her free will.

Neither Mary or Jesus had original or any other sin. Nevertheless Jesus chose to be baptized by water, and were I confessing believer baptism, I would recognize Mary’s act of faith as such.


8,276 posted on 02/03/2010 4:30:30 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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