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To: MarkBsnr; Mr Rogers
In our baptism, we were sealed by the Holy Spirit. A mark was put upon us - the promise of adoption into the True Vine. That is all. We can tear that seal off and discard it.

THAT IS ALL? :) By what authority do you claim the right to break the seal of God? Perhaps it is not so easy as you think:

Rev. 5:1-5 : 1 Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

So it seems that maybe a little more pull is required to be able to break a seal of God. Seals were used to authenticate documents or property. When the believer is sealed he is marked as the property of God, property bought at a price:

1 Cor.6:19-20 : 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.

2 Cor. 1:21-22 : 21 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

Therefore what God seals no man may break.

8,023 posted on 02/02/2010 2:48:43 AM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper
THAT IS ALL? :) By what authority do you claim the right to break the seal of God? Perhaps it is not so easy as you think:

Authority? It's called the free will of man. First thing, we must establish what a seal is, especially as applied to men by God.

Esther 8: 1 That day King Ahasuerus gave the house of Haman, enemy of the Jews, to Queen Esther; and Mordecai was admitted to the king's presence, for Esther had revealed his relationship to her. 2 The king removed his signet ring from Haman, and transferred it into the keeping of Mordecai; and Esther put Mordecai in charge of the house of Haman. 3 In another audience with the king, Esther fell at his feet and tearfully implored him to revoke the harm done by Haman the Agagite, and the plan he had devised against the Jews. 4 The king stretched forth the golden scepter to Esther. So she rose and, standing in his presence, 5 said: "If it pleases your majesty and seems proper to you, and if I have found favor with you and you love me, let a document be issued to revoke the letters which that schemer Haman, son of Hammedatha the Agagite, wrote for the destruction of the Jews in all the royal provinces. 6 For how can I witness the evil that is to befall my people, and how can I behold the destruction of my race?" 7 King Ahasuerus then said to Queen Esther and to the Jew Mordecai: "Now that I have given Esther the house of Haman, and they have hanged him on the gibbet because he attacked the Jews, 8 1 you in turn may write in the king's name what you see fit concerning the Jews and seal the letter with the royal signet ring." For whatever is written in the name of the king and sealed with the royal signet ring cannot be revoked.

A seal is a proof that the things sealed are true, What God promises is true, forever more. But we can break our own covenant with God, breaking the seal ourselves.

Ephesians 1: 13 In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed 7 with the promised holy Spirit, 14 which is the first installment 8 of our inheritance toward redemption as God's possession, to the praise of his glory.

The seal is a mark of the first installment of our inheritance. A mark only.

2 Corinthians 5: 5 Now the one who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a first installment. 5

A first installment.

Romans 2: 5 By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, 6 who will repay everyone according to his works: 3 7 eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, 8 but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. 9 Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. 10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek.

25 Circumcision, to be sure, has value if you observe the law; but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Again, if an uncircumcised man keeps the precepts of the law, will he not be considered circumcised? 27 Indeed, those who are physically uncircumcised but carry out the law will pass judgment on you, with your written law and circumcision, who break the law. 28 One is not a Jew outwardly. True circumcision is not outward, in the flesh. 29 Rather, one is a Jew inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit, not the letter; his praise is not from human beings but from God.

Obedience is a requirement of God. If you are disobedient, you break His covenant on your side, not on His.

1 Thessalonians 4: 7 For God did not call us to impurity but to holiness. 8 Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives his holy Spirit to you.

When you disregard the Holy Spirit, you reject the covenant and break the seal of God.

Ephesians 4: 30 And do not grieve the holy Spirit of God, with which you were sealed for the day of redemption. 13 31 All bitterness, fury, anger, shouting, and reviling must be removed from you, along with all malice.

Or else you break His seal and reject His promise.

1 Samuel 16: 14 2 The spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and he was tormented by an evil spirit sent by the LORD.

'Nuff said? The seal is put onto us by the Holy Spirit, yet we can willingly break it by our disobedience.

8,073 posted on 02/02/2010 5:35:40 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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