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To: Mad Dawg
I'm quite disappointed to see you write such, MD. Majorly disappointed because I'd pegged you as, while having strong biases, being also capable of more objectivity on such matters.

The vast body of Vatican sources using such a term in hyper special ways is massive and outrageously unique. Oh, I suppose you can find Orthodox, Lutheran and some other sources that somewhat join such bandwagons. However, on the whole--the Vatican sources seem to be leading the pack . . .

MASSIVELY LEADING THE PACK IN TOTAL VOLUME AND IN EXTREMES OF WORD USE AND RACING PAST THE BIBLICAL LINE OF TRULY BIBLICAL ORTHODOXY TO SWIMMING IN OCEANS OF HERETICAL OUTRAGES.

Sigh.

7,921 posted on 02/01/2010 9:19:14 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I'm sorry to disappoint. He said "denotes". A case MIGHT be made for "connotes," though I think not.

I am not making a sociological statement. I do not have hard data which would stand up to analysis. I am making a theological statement and one which is informed by my own reading of theologians and philosophers.

I think the objectivty, etc. is lacking on the other side. I keep on reading statements about mother hood that are not born out in science or in the history of theology and philosophy.>When people have heart attacks over the statements of famous Catholics they have to edit out the words, assert that people who aren't theologians are, or ignore the uses of poetic language.

It's as I said to someone elsse earler on another topic. I look at the house you're looking at. YOu say it's low and round, I say it's tall an angular. It's what I see.

and when the lowness and roundness becomes the occasion of a passionate verbal assault, what can I be but bemused? It's not what we teach, it's not what we think, it has nothing to do with us, except that it is our words which are being mangled.

7,925 posted on 02/01/2010 9:31:02 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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