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To: Mr Rogers
God did. Adam didn’t HAVE to sin. Adam chose to sin, but it wasn’t inevitable. God knew what would happen, but he didn’t cause it. God doesn’t cause evil.

Are you saying that God did not know Adam was going to sin?

I asked could not God have made man with a nature that would always choose not to sin?

7,862 posted on 02/01/2010 3:51:58 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7

“Are you saying that God did not know Adam was going to sin?”

No. I said, “God knew what would happen, but he didn’t cause it.” Therefor, God knew Adam was going to sin.

“I asked could not God have made man with a nature that would always choose not to sin?”

Of course. A man without free choice would always choose not to sin. But if choices are to be made freely, then the option of sinning must be there. Even after the fall, we have a sinful nature but we do not choose sin every moment of our life.

Wiki summarizes total depravity as “Total depravity does not mean, however, that people are as evil as possible. Rather, it means that even the good which a person may intend is faulty in its premise, false in its motive, and weak in its implementation; and there is no mere refinement of natural capacities that can correct this condition...All good, consequently, is derived from God alone, and in no way through man...This idea can be illustrated by a glass of wine with a few drops of deadly poison in it: Although not all the liquid is poison, all the liquid is poisoned. In the same way, while not all of human nature is depraved, all human nature is totally affected by depravity.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_depravity


7,879 posted on 02/01/2010 7:15:29 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: RnMomof7
Adam and Eve were made sinless

and so were the angels. Genesis 3:7 describes the fall of Adam and Eve.

Foreknowledge is not predestination.

7,963 posted on 02/01/2010 2:14:13 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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