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To: Forest Keeper

Jesus will not pray for the world but only for His children, for they are not of the world. How can we say that Christ died for the world when He won’t even pray for the world?


Jesus said...My prayer is not for them alone. I pray for those who will believe in me.....John 17:20 Meaning those who aren’t his children...All future believers were included in that prayer...


7,849 posted on 02/01/2010 1:09:39 AM PST by caww
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To: caww; Forest Keeper
Jesus said...My prayer is not for them alone. I pray for those who will believe in me.....John 17:20 Meaning those who aren’t his children...All future believers were included in that prayer...

All the future children of God.. How could he pray SPECIFICALLY for them if he did not know who they were?

Eph 1:: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

7,864 posted on 02/01/2010 3:58:09 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: caww; RnMomof7
FK: Jesus will not pray for the world but only for His children, for they are not of the world. How can we say that Christ died for the world when He won’t even pray for the world?

Jesus said...My prayer is not for them alone. I pray for those who will believe in me.....John 17:20 Meaning those who aren’t his children...All future believers were included in that prayer...

Sure, altogether then He prayed for all believers then present going forward, but excluded all non-believers then present going forward (17:20 is exclusive to future believers). He excluded most of the world, then living going forward, from His prayer. My question then stands. How can we say that Christ died for the (whole) world when He won’t even pray for the (whole) world?

8,890 posted on 02/05/2010 10:27:47 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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