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To: caww
But Harley...do we not have two natures which war against each other?

There is some debate on this even in Reformed theology. However, let's assume for the sake of argument there are these two natures. These two natures exists AFTER we become Christians-not before. Before we are saved we only seek after the things of this world-not God. Once we are saved then we do have struggles as we grow in righteousness.

That denotes “a choice” of which nature we will or will not adhere to.

No, we don't make a choice. That connotates that we see God's path on one side and Satan on the other. What the scriptures states is that we are "led". We are either guided by the Spirit or guided by our desires and lust. It's not a choice.

7,137 posted on 01/29/2010 6:33:02 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; wmfights; RnMomof7; Gamecock
No, we don't make a choice. That connotates that we see God's path on one side and Satan on the other. What the scriptures states is that we are "led". We are either guided by the Spirit or guided by our desires and lust. It's not a choice.

Amen!

My husband says he became aware of the accurate presupposition of the Calvinist perspective on Scripture when he held our first child in the delivery room only to realize nothing he had ever done in his entire life merited the unearned gift of our son. At that moment he understood merciful and free grace.

It's all a gift. Everything. And none of it comes from us. It's all by Christ, through Christ, for Christ. "And by Him all things consist."

"All things."

7,168 posted on 01/29/2010 8:44:50 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HarleyD

“We are either guided by the Spirit or guided by our desires and lust”....

But is not this the two natures..His Spirit and My desires which war against His?

He can lead one direction ..I want to go in another...He says wait..I say no I don’t want to. My wanting is my will..my desire opposing Him.


7,231 posted on 01/29/2010 11:56:11 PM PST by caww
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