God breathed means to me that it is God’s Word - his speech, his meaning...it comes from the mouth of God.
Interesting. The only Scripture that is claimed to be from the mouth of God is the Torah, minus Deuteronomy. We have it from the Gospel writer known as Luke and the writer of Revelation known as John that God did not write their books. They say it in their respective beginning chapters.
SOLA is demonstrated - scripture is repeatedly used as the authority in disputes - a practice the church fathers seem to have followed.
An appeal to Scripture does not prove sola. And many if not most of the middle Fathers depended on the early Fathers for many if not most of their doctrinal development. There were many doctrines in place before Scripture was chosen.
And since it comes directly from God, not from men - there were no votes on scripture - we can trust it above what men say.
Ah, my friend, consider this: how were the Scriptures chosen? Who chose them? What was the process? How many versions of how many books were circulating? Hundreds of versions of the four Gospels (as well as hundreds of versions of the other nearly 100 Gospels that we know of). No votes? Tell me, how were the exact Scriptures chosen?
But remember, sola scriptura doesn’t say we cannot use anything else, only that anything else we use falls under the authority of scripture.
Where is the Scriptural authority of that statement?
“In our baptism, we were sealed by the Holy Spirit.” Here I, as a Baptist, disagree with Catholic doctrine, and probably Calvin’s doctrine as well. When we are baptized with the Holy Spirit - immersed in Him, giving control to Him (”18And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit” - being filled with the Spirit is like being drunk on Him - He becomes the source of our behavior) - we are sealed.
Sounds like more of a longer explanation for Catholic baptism. But again, we must insist on a precise definition of seal. Some of our friends think that seal means a ziplock baggie. I know that you regard it as a mark (such as potentates of old did with a signet - hence signing their mark - ring impressed in wax. The seal could be taken off since it was not a permanent thing.
When we hear the truth and believe, we are sealed - our inheritance is guaranteed.
Correct. Our inheritance is guaranteed. But we can refuse that inheritance. The prodigal son, for an example. But we can come back to a merciful and loving God whenever we want. He will accept us back. THAT is love.
Can we break the covenant on our side? I haven’t studied it enough to have an opinion.
I think that Matthew 25 has something to say on the subject.
“The only Scripture that is claimed to be from the mouth of God is the Torah, minus Deuteronomy.”
Scripture is “God-breathed”. Where does breath come from?
“We have it from the Gospel writer known as Luke and the writer of Revelation known as John that God did not write their books.”
“19And we have something more sure, the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. 21For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” - 2 Peter 1
“An appeal to Scripture does not prove sola.”
You have something more sure than Peter’s memory of the Transfiguration, and more certain than the breath of God? Is it hidden in that soft Iowa snow?
BTW - I generally refuse to ride when it is below 55 deg F. Does that ever happen in Iowa?
“Ah, my friend, consider this: how were the Scriptures chosen? Who chose them?”
The Old Testament was known by the Jews, and endorsed by Jesus Christ. In like manner, the early congregations knew God’s voice when they heard it.
Me “But remember, sola scriptura doesn’t say we cannot use anything else, only that anything else we use falls under the authority of scripture.” / MB “Where is the Scriptural authority of that statement?”
2 Tim 3:16,16
The church uses scripture to teach, correct, rebuke and train. The result is a man of God fully equipped for every good work. Therefor, if you need it for salvation or good work, scripture has it. And being God’s breath, it is more reliable than Man’s breath.