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To: MarkBsnr; HarleyD

“Jesus told us that sola scriptura is used by those who think that they have eternal life through them. Wrong, says he.”

Wrong, MB. He doesn’t say they were wrong to look, only that they willfully ignored their testimony.

“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.”

The scriptures do indeed testify of Christ, and in Timothy we read that they “are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Yes, we must become a part of the Church He created - but that isn’t the Roman Catholic Church. It isn’t the Baptist Church either, for both were predicted by Jesus to have a mix of saved and unsaved. The Church we must belong to is his body, and we are sealed to the promise by the gift of the Holy Spirit.


6,803 posted on 01/27/2010 7:52:34 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers
“Jesus told us that sola scriptura is used by those who think that they have eternal life through them. Wrong, says he.”

Wrong, MB. He doesn’t say they were wrong to look, only that they willfully ignored their testimony.

They are not wrong to look and attempt to understand; they are wrong to prefer Scripture over God.

“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.” The scriptures do indeed testify of Christ, and in Timothy we read that they “are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Faith is the important operant here, not the Scriptures. Salvation is through faith, not through Scriptures.

Yes, we must become a part of the Church He created - but that isn’t the Roman Catholic Church.

Never claimed it was. That is the Catholic Church - created by Christ and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.

It isn’t the Baptist Church either, for both were predicted by Jesus to have a mix of saved and unsaved.

Don't recall Jesus predicting a Baptist Church.

The Church we must belong to is his body, and we are sealed to the promise by the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Will you tell me your understanding of what seal means? I have had conversation with many here who believe that seal means a ziplock baggie in which the individual is placed on their limo ride.

6,804 posted on 01/27/2010 8:11:21 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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