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To: Mr Rogers
Limited atonement? Not hardly. “God so loved the world...whoever believes”.

See the question is not is belief necessary, but who has the desire and ability to believe..

The Day of atonement was a day of repentance and forgiveness for the Jewish people..it was a type of Christ as high priest and a type of Christ as sacrifice . The sacrifice was solely for the elect nation of Israel it was not an unlimited atonement it was limited to Gods chosen people... We have a God that does not change

6,763 posted on 01/27/2010 2:15:53 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7; Mr Rogers; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
Mr. R. : Limited atonement? Not hardly. “God so loved the world...whoever believes”.

RnMom: The Day of atonement was a day of repentance and forgiveness for the Jewish people..it was a type of Christ as high priest and a type of Christ as sacrifice . The sacrifice was solely for the elect nation of Israel it was not an unlimited atonement it was limited to Gods chosen people... We have a God that does not change

Yes, exactly. And just in other common sense terms we have:

John 17:8-10, 13-16 : 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. ......... 13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it.

Jesus will not pray for the world but only for His children, for they are not of the world. How can we say that Christ died for the world when He won't even pray for the world? That wouldn't make any sense.

7,845 posted on 01/31/2010 11:53:17 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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