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To: Mr Rogers; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you for sharing your views, dear brother in Christ!

As for me, I discern the two verses together, the "which were" qualifying "them that believe on his name" to be those who "were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

However, it should also be noted that the NIV translation gives a different phrasing of those verses as compared to the KJV and Douay-Rheims. The NIV version comports with your view, the others comport with mine.

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

6,731 posted on 01/27/2010 9:15:56 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: All; Religion Moderator
Okay, This thread is a HUGE disappointment. I'm looking for some excuse to procrastinate on a project, and you people are giving me NO HELP at ALL! Is that Christian? Is that showing the LOVE? What is UP with you all?

See you tomorrow ....

6,732 posted on 01/27/2010 10:28:32 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Mr Rogers; blue-duncan
Amen! Another point in favor of the KJV. 8~)

I remember you saying you loved the book of John. And truly, it is a work filled with the wonder and splendor of our benevolent and merciful Father who has loved us and adopted us as His children even before we loved Him.

Grace is everything.

You mention your mother's ability to lay everything at the foot of the cross. Anyone in difficult times who has tried to do this, to rest in Him completely, knows how rare that kind of complete trust is. It is a gift. One which we pray for. One which, once we know it is not in ourselves to accomplish, we work all the harder to realize because we now understand the reason for it - God's glory and our welfare.

6,733 posted on 01/27/2010 10:32:52 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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