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To: HarleyD
If Catholics can't understand their Catechism then, yes, they do need lecturing on them.

And who deserves the lecture if you cannot understand them?

Read.

I don't need to read the entire catechism to reconize heretical-bordering on blasphemous-doctrine.

Of course not.

My suggestion is that you read the entire Catechism of the Catholic Church to recognize that it is NOT heretical--bordering on blasphemous--doctrine.

Or do you mean blasphemy against YOPIOS?

6,376 posted on 01/24/2010 5:51:02 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski; HarleyD

I’m guessing that we’re having our legs pulled here. The CCC is so full of the very stuff HarleyD says it so completely lacks that this has to be a joke.


6,378 posted on 01/24/2010 5:55:44 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Petronski
There is NOTHING in that Catechism that states our Lord Jesus paid the penalty for our sins. If you could find a reference then I'd be happy to read some more of your Catechisms. But you keep posting the same thing over and over. It just says that Christ "died for the sins of the world". This is not the same as atoning for our sins.

Here is what the Catholic website, NewAdvent, has to say about the doctrine of Atonement:

It is a bit disingenuous to suggest that the doctrine of Atonement has not changed when New Advent gives a complete history of how the doctrine has changed. They admit that the early church fathers had a different view of the Atonement than the present Catholic Church. Those ignorant savage early church fathers couldn't see past their heathenistic practices I suppose-at least that's the implications.

I would suggest you are not reading your Catechism correctly.

6,508 posted on 01/25/2010 5:59:52 PM PST by HarleyD
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