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To: Running On Empty
Thank you so very much for your wonderful questions, dear sister in Christ!

Concerning in potentia, I worded my reply carefully, i.e. at least some of the fruits of the Spirit. Sanctification is a walk. As we abide in Christ, more and more Spiritual fruits are brought through us.

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. - John 15:1-5

And concerning discernment v judgment, I would point to two passages from Matthew 7 which might seem to be contradictory on the surface but they are not.

The first deals with judgment and the second with discernment:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. – Matthew 7:1-2

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. - Matthew 7:15-20

God’s justice is perfection: we each individually build the scales whereby we will be each and individually measured – weight by weight. (Matthew 7:1-2) And God assures the balance:

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: - Luke 6:37

Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. – Matt 5:7

Discernment on the other hand (Matt 7:15-20) is recognition. Because of your testimony and the fruits of the Spirit I see in you, I call you my sister in Christ.

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Cor 6:19

As another example, we discern the body and blood of Christ with the bread and the cup.

But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of [that] bread, and drink of [that] cup.

For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. - I Cor 11:28-30

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

For the body is not one member, but many. - I Cor 12:12-14

Spiritual discernment is like a different language. The natural man cannot hear it or understand it.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Cor 2:13-14

To God be the glory, not man, never man!

6,275 posted on 01/23/2010 10:55:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

WONDERFULLY AND ANOINTEDLY WELL SAID, imho.

THX.


6,283 posted on 01/24/2010 4:00:31 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks very much for your response to my questions.

I appreciate the time you gave to them.

I’m thinking much about it.

As we read in Isaiah: “For it is You who have accomplished all that we have done”.


6,324 posted on 01/24/2010 8:53:53 AM PST by Running On Empty ( The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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