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you might want to read a nifty little piece by the theologian, Cornelius Van Til...

I particularly like Van Til's conduct in his quarrel with Gordon Clark and in the very unChristian manner with which it was pursued. I understand that Van Til was an OPC minister and, with Machen, either quit or was fired by Princeton and was incompatible with Presbyterian thought and helped form a splinter group called (after several splinters) the OPC.

Nifty. I do agree with him in one area, though. He argued that there is no neutral ground between Christians and non Christians. In our discourse, I have not discovered any common ground between the Christian point of view and your position, Dr. E. Thank you for pointing me in this direction so that I might discover for myself the increasingly pagan and apostate roots and position of the OPC.

In our discourse, I have not discovered any common ground between the Christian point of view and your position, Dr. E.

I also have been accused on this thread of not being Christian. And I suspect others have been accused in a similar fashion, perhaps with different words and probably back and forth.

And it troubles me to see this identity argument between my brothers and sisters in Christ because I do indeed see a "common ground." Indeed, recognizing our brothers and sisters in Him is a crucial part of discerning the body of Christ in I Cor 11-12.

For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

For the body is not one member, but many. - I Cor 12:12-14

I do appreciate the argument when dealing with beliefs which deny the Trinity, e.g. how could Islam be Christian when they deny that Christ is God?

But the three of us, although we may differ in Spiritual insight and have opposing doctrines or understandings of Scripture, worship the same Triune God.

After all, the Spirit of God cannot be contained by any side in a debate among Christians.

For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, [and] hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. – Jeremiah 2:13

He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet [given]; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) – John 7:38-39

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. - John 3:5-8

And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as [he did] unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? – Acts 11:15-17

To God be the glory, not man, never man!