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To: Forest Keeper; Natural Law; NoGrayZone; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; Petronski; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
No, the Catechism is not the same Level as Scripture for the simple reason that the Scripture is a specific subset of the entire Magisterial teaching, that happens to be authenticated by the Church as authored by the close disciples of Christ close to the time of His ministry, contains historical and pedagogical material originating personally with Christ and is internally consistent wit the Deposit of Faith received by the Church from the same source. The Catechism, obviously, is a modern product.

However, one interested in the entirety of the teaching of the Church would do very well to read and understand the Catechism. If our detractors did, we'd all go home early.

4,359 posted on 01/17/2010 9:42:09 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
"No, the Catechism is not the same Level as Scripture..."

Not all Scripture is the same level. There exists a hierarchy in which the actual words of Christ are supreme, followed closely by the accounts of the eye witnesses. Other works such as the Old Testament and the Paulian letters offer context and clarity. The Old Testament was satisfied by the death and resurrection of Christ. The letters of Paul and other subsequent documents, including the Catechism and Encyclicals offer clarity and insight.

Please refer to my post #4297 for the details of the Catechism on this.

4,362 posted on 01/17/2010 9:59:30 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: annalex; Mad Dawg; markomalley; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

I’ve resisted all these years because I really do NOT enjoy such . . . prose . . . almost regardless of the topic. It’s just dreary to me.

However, in the interest of Christian charity and unity hereon, I’m willing to read the document IF

MadDawg; MarkOMalley; and Betty Boop; will agree on which would be the best, most authentic, most validated, most official version—and send me the link to it on the net.

Absolutely no guesstimate on a timeline to complete the task. I don’t want to be rushed or pushed or dogpiled about it.

However, I will read it as earnestly and fair-mindedly; as objectively as I’m able, by God’s help, to do.


4,363 posted on 01/17/2010 10:14:47 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: annalex; Natural Law; Alamo-Girl; Quix; NoGrayZone; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
No, the Catechism is not the same Level as Scripture for the simple reason that the Scripture is a specific subset of the entire Magisterial teaching, that happens to be authenticated by the Church as authored by the close disciples of Christ close to the time of His ministry, contains historical and pedagogical material originating personally with Christ and is internally consistent with the Deposit of Faith received by the Church from the same source. The Catechism, obviously, is a modern product.

OK, but I'm still trying to get the approach. For the sake of discussion, let's put everything in the Catechism that is extra-Biblical to the side for a moment. Would you then say that everything in the rest of the Catechism is right because it matches the higher authority of scripture, OR, would you say that everything in the rest of the Catechism is correct because the authors of the Catechism were inspired just like the authors of the Bible were?

6,367 posted on 01/24/2010 4:11:16 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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