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To: caww
Hummm to add to that post.. it appears if we do make idols etc. He is jealous.

The one and only Creator, jealous? Sounds kinda petty. I'd say that He is more worried about us and our souls.

This would then tie in with what Mark said a few posts back, that we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart...mind...and soul...first and formost.

Is there any other meaning to life? How can things get any better for us than to accept Christ completely and get to be in His presence for ever. No rooms or bleacher seats or different rewards in Heaven. Just in His presence forever. Hell is the absence of God.

4,323 posted on 01/17/2010 6:22:02 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; caww
I'd say that not only does "Jealous" have ample Scriptural witness, but also it is congruent with our Lord's "be ye perfect," and "no man can serve two masters," and with the very core of monotheism.

Earlier on this thread we had reference to Isaiah's "My glory I give to no other," and while we think that God does in fact share his glory with all the blessed, there is always going to be that core truth that it is HIS and can only be His.

We are called to be His. If I am also Mary's and Dominic's, it is because they are "in Him," and I am theirs derivatively, as an aspect of my being His.

The relationship with Divine "jealousy" and our Lord's summons to perfection, I think, has to do with half-measures when carried to their eternal result are a failure at monotheism.

Fortunately, we do not have to achieve perfection. But as we grow in Christ we are more and more open to his, so to speak, rearranging our furniture, throwing some of it out and bringing some new pieces in so as to make us perfect.

I imagine caww will disagree and may think what I say impossible and a kind of waffling, and at least in principle he could be right. (you're a 'he', caww?)

But in her way Mary, and in his way Dominic seem to assist, to strengthen, to "brace" me as I try to let Him say and do his self-oblation in and through me. If they didn't, I would have no business monkeying with them.

In any event, I don't have a big problem with Divine "jealousy." In Him alone is our salvation and joy, and at His right hand (and no other's) are pleasures for evermore.

FWIW.

4,327 posted on 01/17/2010 6:50:59 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: MarkBsnr

..(If we make idols he is jealous)...
..(sounds kinda petty)....

Think bigger Mark...bigger than concerned or worried, much much bigger. If He says He is a Jealous God than He is what He says He is... or He is a liar.

Like all his other attributes they are beyond are limited understanding. The point is of course...to maintain our relationship with Him on a one to one basis....aside from idols.


4,337 posted on 01/17/2010 7:30:56 PM PST by caww
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