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To: MarkBsnr
I have seen you post of this before Mark, yes they are ignorant..unfortunately. And I see that has disturbed you the same as it has myself in the non-catholic community... sadly....But it does seem to be a difficult thing to understand all that there is in the catholic faith...it is not for the average citizen to understand as I see it.

Now for the highly educated or those who have desire, they can surely find volumes and volumes of how to's and why for's in the catholic faith. Enough I would think to quite easily distract from the centrality of Christ.

BTW..I recall you also mentioning, on another post, we are intended to enjoy God when we arrive in heaven...when on issues of rewards. I believe there will be rewards also...but not in the manner we view rewards. Not a pecking order so to speak. But you stating of us enjoying Him fully was great to see..I think so too. Everything else will seem pale...as it should.

4,202 posted on 01/17/2010 1:19:26 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
I have seen you post of this before Mark, yes they are ignorant..unfortunately. And I see that has disturbed you the same as it has myself in the non-catholic community... sadly

Then we are on a level of understanding. My wife's family (and to a certain extent my extended family) are rather poorly catechized as well and would not survive a debate here with many of those whom I regularly converse with. It disturbs me greatly. And I appreciate you posting the fact that you are disturbed as well with this level of ignorance of doctrinal matters.

But it does seem to be a difficult thing to understand all that there is in the catholic faith...it is not for the average citizen to understand as I see it.

The central tenets are not difficult; uneducated Greek peasants (to use Kolo's grandparents' example) are able to understand what is correct in the Faith and what is not. But yes, the Faith is very rich and very deep. We have had numerous Ecumenical Councils over the millennia which have added to the Faith and a great number of Church Fathers who have also contributed greatly.

Now for the highly educated or those who have desire, they can surely find volumes and volumes of how to's and why for's in the catholic faith. Enough I would think to quite easily distract from the centrality of Christ.

This is a human problem and not a doctrinal one. A person can always find himself distracted from Christ by something or other. Given Pat Robertson's conduct over the last week, I think that he, unburdened by Catholic theology has demonstrated distraction. Rick Warren and Joel Osteen demonstrate distraction, as well.

BTW..I recall you also mentioning, on another post, we are intended to enjoy God when we arrive in heaven

The two Commandments of Jesus kinda sum it up pretty well.

Matthew 22: 19 When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together, 35 and one of them [a scholar of the law] 20 tested him by asking, 36 "Teacher, 21 which commandment in the law is the greatest?" 37 He said to him, 22 "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. 38 This is the greatest and the first commandment. 39 The second is like it: 23 You shall love your neighbor as yourself.

And God, who is already loving us, will have us in a place where there is no diminishment or dilution of that love. No distractions of our earthly abode. Just us in the company of God forevermore.

Everything else will seem pale...as it should.

Is it possible to improve on perfection?

4,211 posted on 01/17/2010 2:00:02 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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