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To: Iscool
You guys are all over the map on this...Some of you say the full cleansing come at baptism...Now you says it happens for most of you at purgatory... And other Catholics say purgatory is payment for unforgiven sins on earth...

Baptism...purgatory...

And we can't forget partaking in the eucharist which the RCC teaches is the exclusive conduit for God's grace, and without that "consecrated" bread there is no salvation.

And confession. Mustn't forget confession.

And penance.

All in all, a lot of hoops, each one the "real" one.

And yet Christ's instructions were so much clearer...

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

And by the grace of God alone men do believe in Jesus Christ and thus are saved.

3,898 posted on 01/16/2010 8:26:37 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And we can't forget partaking in the eucharist which the RCC teaches is the exclusive conduit for God's grace, and without that "consecrated" bread there is no salvation.

Isn't that peculiar...The priest (if I understood it correctly) temporarily turns into the High Priest (Jesus/God) and turns the wafer into Jesus (maybe because no mere human could do that)...They then eat Jesus to gain the ultimate grace, but then Mary is the dispenser of all graces they say, so Jesus must have to go thru Mary to get to God to give back to Jesus to hand out the grace for taking a bite out of Him...

I like the bible way better...

Thank you Jesus for giving me the grace, freely, to believe in you...

3,915 posted on 01/16/2010 9:13:39 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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