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To: NYer
"It is to Peter that he says: ‘You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ [Matt. 16:18].

The concept of Christ as the chief cornerstone, and the stones of the building as the Church was first taught by Christ in Matt 16:16-18 when He told Peter, "You are blessed, Simon, Son of Jonas. And on this rock [PETRA, giant rock, Lord Jesus Christ] I will build my Church [royal family of God]. Therefore, your name is now PETROS [part or chip of a rock]." This reference to Christ as the chief cornerstone is found in Eph 2:20; 1 Pet 2:4-8. Peter recognized that Christ, not the Church, is the rock. The Church didn't even exist in Matt 16. Christ is the link between the two walls, Israel and the Church. He is the ruler of both.

Great verses. It's the verse just several verses before Matt 16:23 where the situation is more fully described,:

"(Mat 16:23) But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."

I also understand the word used 'petra' also refers to a little pebble and in the Greek, adjectives are also used as nouns.

376 posted on 01/06/2010 6:44:27 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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I also understand the word used 'petra' also refers to a little pebble and in the Greek...

Not in Koine Greek it doesn't.

In Koine Greek (the language of the Gospel of Matthew), there are no gender distinctions, both petra and petros mean rock.

The Koine Greek for stone/pebble is lithos.

379 posted on 01/06/2010 6:53:32 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Cvengr
And on this rock [PETRA, giant rock, Lord Jesus Christ] I will build my Church [royal family of God]. Therefore, your name is now PETROS [part or chip of a rock].

The distinctions drawn in brackets in this quote are FALSE.

380 posted on 01/06/2010 6:55:16 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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INDEED:

The concept of Christ as the chief cornerstone, and the stones of the building as the Church was first taught by Christ in Matt 16:16-18 when He told Peter, "You are blessed, Simon, Son of Jonas. And on this rock [PETRA, giant rock, Lord Jesus Christ] I will build my Church [royal family of God]. Therefore, your name is now PETROS [part or chip of a rock]." This reference to Christ as the chief cornerstone is found in Eph 2:20; 1 Pet 2:4-8. Peter recognized that Christ, not the Church, is the rock. The Church didn't even exist in Matt 16. Christ is the link between the two walls, Israel and the Church. He is the ruler of both.

Great verses. It's the verse just several verses before Matt 16:23 where the situation is more fully described,:

"(Mat 16:23) But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men."

I also understand the word used 'petra' also refers to a little pebble and in the Greek, adjectives are also used as nouns.

THANKS.

BTW, re a related matter . . . when the ?C?AWTRB group's finger frothing clique folks spew their outrageous !!!!!CONTROL!!!! FREAQUE !!!!DEMANDS!!!!,

perhaps

We should develop a table and numbering system. We could, then, simply reply something like . . .

Ahhh, yes, STOCK OUTRAGEOUS !!!!CONTROL!!!! PHREAQUE !!!!DEMAND!!!! #8

OR

SO!C!P!D!#8

OR maybe in a rush

SOCPD#12

or whatever the case might be. Then thoughtful TPC's and onlookers could merely go--oh, yeah, that old idiocy and scroll on by without having to bother with the same tiresomely spewed bile.

We could probably even end up pairing appropriate Scriptures with such Stock numbered bile spews. That could spare us a lot of finger flinging at the wind. It would also make for a much clearer comparison between our brief, cryptic, calm replies and the ?C?AWTRB's finger frothing clique's volcanic bile spewing rants.

383 posted on 01/06/2010 7:17:34 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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