What your calling insults are your own convictions in reality,that's why you responded this way to hide them
You have degraded Jesus and all of the Saints by leaving the Catholic Church to make up your own belief system against the Church
Were the church fathers infallible?
They were speaking infallibly when they spoke of the Trinity,the Eucharist being the Actual Body and Blood Of Christ,Baptism etc..... They did not do what you did and leave the Church,they stayed within the Church in obedience to Christ,some even reformed the church within at times when needed,not run off to spread heresies like Luther did out of pride and regret the mistake he made later.
Once again I point out that transubstantiation was not a DECLARED a doctrine until 1215..before that one was free to believe what one chose to believe and still be a catholic
This is like saying Jesus was not God until the Council of Nicea.
Does that mean that the Church DID NOT already believe this? Of course it did! Jesus was worshiped during the liturgy. People prayed to Him during their daily prayers and through their actions. The Church already KNEW that Jesus was God - the Church DEFINES that He was God infallibly based on the guidance of the Spirit already at work in the Church.
Read Saint Irenaues, and the other ECF'S how the battled the heretics against the Real Presence if you foolishly believe the Church let people believe whatever they want regarding the Eucharist.
Read Saint Irenaues, and the other ECF'S how the battled the heretics against the Real Presence if you foolishly believe the Church let people believe whatever they want regarding the Eucharist.
People are, of course, free to believe anything they want regarding the Eucharist. The question is, are their beliefs Catholic or non-Catholic? If non-Catholic, then they are not Church members, they are ... something else.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.