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To: Mad Dawg; blue-duncan; RnMomof7; Quix; the_conscience; wmfights; HarleyD; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ...
Some don't even want to state our position accurately. They're not interested in truth, they're interested in victory, even if it's a bogus and illusory victory

Scriptural truth is victory. Nothing "bogus and illusory" about that.

The RCC teaches that men's good works earn them salvation and also shave off time in purgatory for themselves (and for those they pray for) where they finish atoning for left-over sins (in contradiction to Hebrews 10 which says since Christ has atoned for the sins of His flock there is no more atoning work necessary.)

Purgatory is a cruel fiction which again illustrates Rome's error of believing men's own good works save them. .

RCC Catechism #2027 -- No one can merit the initial grace which is at the origin of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit, we can merit for ourselves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life, as well as necessary temporal goods.

It doesn't matter if some RCs say faith is necessary along with good works because God's word tells us our own good works are not a requirement for salvation, but a result of our salvation.

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost" -- Titus 3:5

3,190 posted on 01/14/2010 11:05:06 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Do you have any Christ in your alleged Christianity? I keep seeing your Scriptural quotes kept small and out of context, and without any Christ whatsoever.


3,452 posted on 01/15/2010 4:43:07 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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