Why have you let yourself be sucked into this unedifying brawl by discord-loving trolls?
The points you raise are worthy of discussion, but not in this company.
The only point of this thread is to exploit the division among Christians, a fortiori among those in apostolic churches. It’s demonic.
Very well said!
I would contend that the ONLY REASON that the Orthodox (and to a lesser extent the tradional Anglicans and Lutherans) aren't attacked more is that the bigots are less familiar with them. All of the "talking points" are geared toward the Catholic Church and the bigots are typically ignorant to the fact that not all of the views that they are attacking are peculiar to Catholics.
Unfortunately, the only place to have this discussion, under the FR defined ecclesiological defintions is right here. The problem is not with the original creator of this particular thread, whose motives are unknown, and unimportant to me. The problem is that a person who claims to be a Catholic of some sort, in a position of authority here on FR, complained about two posts made by Kosta and me on a Catholic Caucus thread about the uncanonical interference, as the local Croatian Ordinary saw it, of the Cardinal Archbishop of Vienna in a Croatian diocese. That sort of behavior is common enough among Latin Rite hierarchs so as to have become an issue at the Dialogs. Like it or not, it is behavior we have come to expect from some Latin hierarchs. The theologians and hierarchs at the Dialogs take the issue seriously. We as you know are ever ready to call out Orthodox hierarchs, all the way up to the Patriarchs, if they engage in uncanonical behavior. At any rate, the person in authority here on FR, who has yet to admit to his or her involvement, took offense at such lese majeste coming from an Orthodox Christian about the Cardinal Achbishop of Vienna. The complaint was made to an RM, who is not a Catholic of any sort, that outsiders were making trouble, the posts were pulled and here we are.
I'm almost as ready as the rest of you folks to blame those in the heterodox Christian ecclesial assemblies for all sorts of troubles, but not this one. This one belongs squarely with an alleged Catholic authority figure here on FR whose ecclesiology is off and who took advantage of his/her position and use a non Catholic to advance a peculiarly divisive agenda.