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To: Mr Rogers; HarleyD; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; RnMomof7; the_conscience
We are saved by God's will, but through faith, not through election.

Those to whom God gives the free gift of faith have been chosen by Him to receive that gift from before the foundation of the world.

The God you describe is just winging it; waiting for men to come to Him instead of grabbing hold of them and changing their lives while they are yet sinners.

I thank God every day He didn't wait for me to choose Him. He might still be waiting.

"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved." -- Ephesians 1:4-6

Read the verses. God doesn't wait until we make ourselves acceptable to Him. God makes us accepted, according to His good pleasure and determined by Him from before the foundation of the world.

Why Christians deny this comforting, sustaining assurance of God's love is a puzzle. Maybe we just like to keep control of things and have the last word.

2,843 posted on 01/14/2010 12:31:03 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
...He didn't wait for me to choose Him. He might still be waiting.

*lolz*

2,850 posted on 01/14/2010 1:26:42 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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