Now wait a minute here...You're jumping all over the place to claim you have some proof of something...Which you don't...
We were discussing the verse you posted and claimed it speaks of Christians...
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Are you going to be in the grave with your dead body after you pass??? Sorry to tell ya but there won't be any Christians in any grave after they pass on...
Even you claim your saints are in heaven while their dead bodies are not but the verse says those that are in the graves will hear God's voice...
If you apply this verse to dead Catholics, it applies to dead Catholic saints as well...
The saints hear God, — and you and me, too,— but not with their bodies. How, we don’t know, but we know even from the scripture that they do:
Not in any scripture I've ever seen...And I'll guarantee that you can't post a scripture that says your saints in heaven hear you, or me...
You can't make stuff up to prove your point...
Yes, it does. Their bodies are in graves, or sometimes in reliquaries, or missing altogether. No different than anyone else, of any faith.
scripture that says your saints in heaven hear you
We know they are "witnesses" and we know Moses, while dead, conversed with Jesus (Matthew 17:3).