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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; esquirette; Quix; the_conscience; Mr Rogers
anywhere in those scriptures that the Church has made you a new creation

You don't think beign born again is a new creation? What is it then?

I don't see in the scripture how you can be a part time slave to sin and a part time slave to righteousness

the good which I will, I do not; but the evil which I will not, that I do. (St. Paul, the justified one, in Romans 7:19)

1,883 posted on 01/11/2010 7:01:35 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; esquirette; Quix; the_conscience; Mr Rogers
You're either innocent or guilty, you can't cut the baby in half. Partial justification is a mockery to the court and to the One representing the guilty.
However, to the man who does not work but trusts God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

1,886 posted on 01/11/2010 7:15:06 PM PST by the_conscience (True Americans do not insist on politically correct speech codes.)
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To: annalex; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; esquirette; Quix; the_conscience

“the good which I will, I do not; but the evil which I will not, that I do. (St. Paul, the justified one, in Romans 7:19)”

And what is his conclusion?

“So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.

Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.

There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do.”

You see, if you are born again, you don’t ENJOY sin. A pig may be happy in mud, but you are no longer a pig, if you are born again.

Before that?

“And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.”

But no longer.


1,889 posted on 01/11/2010 7:29:06 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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