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To: Petronski; boatbums; Mad Dawg; NoGrayZone; Quix; caww; annalex
So who is it you claim is “preferring a middleman?”

No one in particular. I was responding to Boatbums' purely hypothetical statement in 1166. HOWEVER, :), it IS my understanding that on certain subjects a Catholic will turn to "the Saint for that" fully thinking that the prayer by the Saint on his/her behalf will carry greater weight with God than his/her own prayer. If that is true then I would call that preferring a middleman.

1,558 posted on 01/10/2010 9:26:36 PM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper
...a Catholic will turn to "the Saint for that" fully thinking that the prayer by the Saint on his/her behalf will carry greater weight with God than his/her own prayer...

Really?

1,561 posted on 01/10/2010 9:30:42 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Forest Keeper
HOWEVER, :), it IS my understanding that on certain subjects a Catholic will turn to "the Saint for that" fully thinking that the prayer by the Saint on his/her behalf will carry greater weight with God than his/her own prayer. If that is true then I would call that preferring a middleman.

WHICH, of course, is exceedingly logical and wholesale true to the evidence presented to us hereon.

OH, RIGHT . . . at least the rabid Vatican et al cliques hereon gave up logic . . .

--for lent
--for Christmas
--for New Year's
--for President's Day --for Sunday
--for Wednesday
--for weekends
--for ummpteen feast days
--for umpteen 'saints' birthdays
--for most days in between the above
. . .
. . .

/s

1,565 posted on 01/10/2010 9:32:54 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Forest Keeper
I know, and have known, quite a few Catholics in my day, and I can personally attest to:

burying a statue of St. Joseph in the yard of the house you want to sell.

praying to ST. Christopher for sea-going mercies.

praying to St. Agatha for breast cancer.

St. Anthony for things stolen

St.Jude for things lost.

I know these folks may not have the "proper" viewpoint in their praying, but the fact remains, many, many people pray TO saints for specific things. Right or wrong officially, they do.

1,596 posted on 01/10/2010 10:49:50 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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