[Mad Dawg]

Where did I say anything about a zero sum game?I didn't say you said anything about a zero sum game. You don't need to say what your doing to be doing it.

I’m happy to acknowledge the work of ancient Romanists towards natural rights.

Ancient? I'm dealing with the 16th century. That would be the century of the Reformation! Luther was "ancient"? That would be when de las Casas and other Catholics were developing the theory of natural rights and international law.

But there was a Reformation, ya know, and out of that Reformation grew what we know as natural rights. The Romanists finally came along kicking and screaming (and many still are).

Okay. You guys have your historical myths. Remember, I'm a convert. I used to believe that stuff too. Then I began to do research. Now I know better.

[the_conscience]

You guys have your historical myths. Remember, I'm a convert. I used to believe that stuff too. Then I began to do research. Now I know better.

That you bought into historical revisionism I guess shouldn't come as much of a surprise.

What is unequivocal is that a cult so determined to control speech especially in regards to how others should regard them and refer to them has no real interest in natural rights.

Shame.