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To: Mad Dawg
"In related news, I'd bet that Stretch Pelousy and Patrick Kennedy haven't been to confession in forever. I think they both are in grave spiritual peril.

But, my point was that while you individually may think they are in peril, the Catholic Church doesn't seem to agree with you. They are just sort of naughty boys/girls that should come to confession and get absolved, then return to work.

The Reformed perspective (not the kooky junk from Osteen/Warren/et al) is that these folks are not believers. We would admonish them that there lives demonstrate they have no part with the Body of Christ. The Catholic Church, however, continues to embrace them as "confessing Catholics" (interpreted as true "Christians")and is this, I am asking, what leads to the decay of countries? Broad-based easy acceptance of continuing evil as long as certain rituals are performed afterward.

1,045 posted on 01/09/2010 11:14:15 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
"But, my point was that while you individually may think they are in peril, the Catholic Church doesn't seem to agree with you."

You have no idea what the Catholic Church thinks or intends. The Church is not an adjudicator of salvation like the Protestant hierarchy strives to become. The Church is a teaching and nurturing institution here to assist in the Plan for Salvation that exists even for the most heinous of sinners.

1,057 posted on 01/09/2010 11:53:23 AM PST by Natural Law
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