My Catholic pastor?
Guess he forgot his 'priestly' garb that day! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
“Let’s contrast that with Robertson who most certainly does not understand and “believe in predestination,” as you assert. That’s an old papist trick - keep the bottle, change the wine.”
Robertson supports predestination’s arguments on some other verses. He seems to me to be an honest broker, who tries to follow where the Greek text takes him.
And as usual, adding “papist” offends folks without need...as is the implication that Catholics are liars. Perhaps insulting people God died for - oh, wait, you think he didn’t die for anyone not on his list - is a way to make sure only those overwhelmed by God’s irresistible grace come...good job! It is a pity Paul didn’t understand this principle of evangelism.
“There really are only two religions — synergism (I activated and authenticated my own salvation by my free will decision to believe) and monergism (God is the author and finisher of my faith, having ordained the end from the beginning.)”
Then you should like Jacob Arminius. He taught:
“* Humans are naturally unable to make any effort towards salvation (see also prevenient grace).
* Salvation is possible only by God’s grace, which cannot be merited.
* No works of human effort can cause or contribute to salvation.”
“I choose carefully this day. And that ability to chose carefully comes from God alone and not our “free will” which has been forever corrupted by Adam’s fall.”
Good! You’ve become an Arminian! You agree we have choice, and that the ability to choose is founded in God’s grace.
To find out more about your new beliefs, read about prevenient grace:
http://www.eternalsecurity.us/prevenient_grace.htm
You write: “Wow. That’s so sad I’m going to post it again...bigger, and be sure I attribute it to the proper author... / MR. ROGERS: “And I would remind you that salvation has more than one meaning. It can mean justification, it can mean sanctification, or it can mean both.”
Thanks for repeating it. It is true. I’m surprised it surprises anyone.
“Read Ephesians 2. Faith is not of ourselves. It is a gift from God alone by His grace alone.”
Actually, no. As Barnes puts it, “And that not of yourselves. That is, salvation does not proceed from yourselves. The word rendered that—\~touto\~—is in the neuter gender, and the word faith—\~pistiv\~ —is in the feminine. The word “that,” therefore, does not refer particularly to faith, as being the gift of God, but to the salvation by grace of which he had been speaking.”
I’m still interested in what you think Jesus meant when He said:
“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.”
We do know that at least one photo was posted with the claim that it was from a Catholic website; however, it was from the homepage of a new age nutjob who never even claimed to be Catholic.
Another photo was purported to be from a basilica in Rome, but the photo was taken in such a way to make it IMPOSSIBLE to know where it was from and no known photos of the basilica show anything resembling the photo.
And then there is a photo taken of what appears to be a fallen cross in a graveyard of a country that has had devestating earthquakes and decades of civil war.
LOL.
Thanks for your post.
My Catholic pastor?
Guess he forgot his 'priestly' garb that day! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
WAIT! Is that a white collar I see?
Oops...just a T-shirt.
He knows if he photoshopped it or not, most people fully understand what he means.
Oh, yes, and that “basilica” photo—we never did get the source for that....wonder if it was from “he who shall not be named”?
No "picture" I've posted has been photo-shopped or is inauthentic.She did not say "I did not photoshop them," she said they are not photoshopped or inauthentic.
And as I said, unless she took the photo, she's just not in a position to authenticate.
ROFLOL!!!
What we don't have any way of knowing is where the picture was actually taken.
Here are VERIFIABLE photos taken both inside and outside of the basilica in question and NONE of them have ANYTHING resembling the photo in question.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2371453/posts?page=1176#1176
Be sure to note the ABSENCE of any fleur-de-lis which figure prominently in the photo of dubious origin.
Two of the photos ANYONE could take just about ANYWHERE and try to pass off as real.
Actually there are a lot of things we don’t know. Dr. Eckleburg frequently makes long, elaborate posts that do not always seem to aim for the point under discussion. Frankly, they LOOK LIKE they are your standard cut-n-paste from some unknown website.
Others here usually give a link when they do that, I don’t recall ever seeing one from Dr. E.
Anybody?
He also forgot to hide the pictures of his wife and kids!
“God’s will is far more powerful than the choice a little mortal makes.”
This begs the question entirely again, which, indeed, you have already answered, but chafe under the answer’s conclusion.
Is the mortal’s choice inside or outside of God’s will?
There is no middle ground based upon the qualities of the chooser or the importance of the choice.
The size or import of the mortal or his choice is irrelevant to the question, for even the sparrow does not fall outside His will.
Sorry, but you admitted in an earlier post that he was a Catholic.
To answer seriously, who is the Defender of the Faith? The monarchs of England, for example, were bestowed that title commencing with Henry VIII, by the then Pope, and continue to use it.
Wow! Thanks for that, Dr. E. He sure doesn't mince any words. :) I think it is very important to understand our differences with Catholics regarding the Supper, since they name the Eucharist (I think) as being at the very core of their faith. I still do not reasonably understand why that is, as I have nothing to compare it to in my own faith. So it's worthy of study. I think it will go far in helping to understand the relative mindsets involved.
If not specified it is up to the reader to use their judgment (judge rightly) to discern what she meant. As I stated most reasonable people understand that Dr. Eckleburg was saying they did not photoshop the picture.
Can you prove the photo was not authentic? Just want to throw photoshop out there in the mix huh?
Perhaps everyone should only put up pictures on FR that they personally took, with video of them taking the picture, with you videoing them videoing the picture taker, and only in the vicinity of Big Ben in the background for date/time verification.
If someone has a clear record of sourcing comments and photos, then there is no problem trusting what may be put up.
When a poster does not have a record of sourcing, rather the opposite, then anything they post may become suspect.
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