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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: RnMomof7
Mat 11:30 — For my yoke [is] easy, and my burden is light.

Well, yeah, but sort of an acquired taste, huh?

Sometimes I think "easy" the way representative gummint is "best" -- that is, only in comparison with everything else.

4,501 posted on 01/18/2010 10:19:08 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

I don’t observe the slightest evidence that y’all have the slightest understanding of the degree to which

Christ Himself HAS blessed me with a servants heart to love all individuals . . .

nor the degree to which I have forgiveness for all individuals.

BTW, forgiveness and discipline, justice are quite different things.

And that doesn’t even get into Paul’s turning folks over to satan for discipline that their souls MIGHT be eternally saved.

My prayers re Coakley stand. She has begged for such in her tempting of Almighty God. She had made her bed. Barring unlikely confession and repentance, she shall have The Lord’s discipline in His way and His timing.

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BTW, all this compassion for Coakley by folks who have sliced at me with harsher daggers and spears than my prayers re Coakeley . . . is just realllllly touching.


4,502 posted on 01/18/2010 10:19:16 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I have no compassion for Coakley.

But “Vengeance is MINE, I will repay,” saith the Lord.

Invoking God’s wrath and in Christ’s Holy Name, such as your post did is blasphemy, and dangerous.

I’m worried about you. Seriously.


4,503 posted on 01/18/2010 10:23:26 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Quix
This is not compassion for Coakley. She is despicable in her wallow. But what are we taught?

Matthew 5: 38 25 "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on (your) right cheek, turn the other one to him as well. 40 If anyone wants to go to law with you over your tunic, hand him your cloak as well. 41 Should anyone press you into service for one mile, 26 go with him for two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow. 43 27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your heavenly Father, for he makes his sun rise on the bad and the good, and causes rain to fall on the just and the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what recompense will you have? Do not the tax collectors 28 do the same? 47 And if you greet your brothers only, what is unusual about that? Do not the pagans do the same? 29 48 So be perfect, 30 just as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Luke 6: 27 12 "But to you who hear I say, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 To the person who strikes you on one cheek, offer the other one as well, and from the person who takes your cloak, do not withhold even your tunic. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and from the one who takes what is yours do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you. 32 For if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do the same. 34 If you lend money to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit (is) that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, and get back the same amount. 35 But rather, love your enemies and do good to them, and lend expecting nothing back; then your reward will be great and you will be children of the Most High, for he himself is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as (also) your Father is merciful. 37 13 "Stop judging and you will not be judged. Stop condemning and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven. 38 Give and gifts will be given to you; a good measure, packed together, shaken down, and overflowing, will be poured into your lap. For the measure with which you measure will in return be measured out to you."

Or do you prefer Psalm 109 with the OT God of destruction and wrath?

4,504 posted on 01/18/2010 10:27:11 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Judith Anne; Quix

Forgive me if I”m out of line. I think Quix knows what we think about the maledection. The horse is dead, I think.


4,505 posted on 01/18/2010 10:33:09 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Quix; markomalley; Mad Dawg; Judith Anne
I must confess I always thought it a pity that John Wayne never starred in a life of Jesus:

"Wahll, li'l pilgrim, if ya wanna be blessed, why you just pick up this here Peacemaker and have at it! I usually use TWO Peacemakers, so I can have two handfuls of blessing!"

Admittedly, it would take a few liberties with the script, but if Martin Luther could indulge in a loose translation, then certainly the Duke...


4,506 posted on 01/18/2010 10:34:53 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Judith Anne

I welcome the benefits of all good hearted prayers to The Lord God Almighty.

May The Lord bless you likewise.


4,507 posted on 01/18/2010 10:36:45 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MarkBsnr
Digression:

38 Give and gifts will be given to you; a good measure, packed together, shaken down, and overflowing, will be poured into your lap. For the measure with which you measure will in return be measured out to you."

This verse brings tears to my eyes.

I remember loading buckets with feed for my sheep. I would measure carefully, but then I would shake, and press, and put the last scoop in with the bucket over the feed barrel so the overflow would fall back into the barrel.

It was because I wanted to get as much as possible into the bucket -- as MUCH as I could give.

So much does God love us.

4,508 posted on 01/18/2010 10:37:47 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; LUV W

I think it was called THE MISSION CROSS.

Rather clunky . . . about 2” tall, 1.5” wide, 3/8” thick. Pretty thick anyway. Silver.

Imagine it’s worth now were it in gold! Have had it for more than 30 years.

Yeah, I like James Avery’s stuff. He’s still alive.

Luv W, do they still make that cross?


4,509 posted on 01/18/2010 10:41:28 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mr Rogers

Dang!


4,510 posted on 01/18/2010 10:41:28 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mr Rogers

LOL.

I thought Hooks more rugged than most! One reason I liked them.

LOL.


4,511 posted on 01/18/2010 10:42:58 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski; Mad Dawg

Thanks Petronski;

I’m not picky per se about type of binding.

I AM VERY PICKY that the binding be durable. I hate books where the spine parts with the end pages early on.

However, I’ll gladly accept whatever arrives in the same spirit and love it was sent in.

Thx Tons.


4,512 posted on 01/18/2010 10:45:22 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

No.

Even extreme human outrage is QUITE different.

Assumptions about what I’ve tried to articulate are as . . .

unfitting as mind reading, imho.


4,513 posted on 01/18/2010 10:47:08 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

I understand your perspective.

I don’t agree with it, in this case.

I don’t think “worried about me” is exactly new information.


4,514 posted on 01/18/2010 10:49:33 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Judith Anne

Don’t make me come up there!


4,515 posted on 01/18/2010 10:50:51 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Admittedly, it would take a few liberties with the script, but if Martin Luther could indulge in a loose translation, then certainly the Duke...

Clint Eastwood in his final scene in Gran Torino.

4,516 posted on 01/18/2010 10:51:56 AM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

I appreciate your exhortation.

And more so the spirit it appears to be given in.

Of course I’m leaning on God’s mercy and forgivness and wish all would avail themselves of such.

However, I’m responsible to my Lord and Savior and His Spirit to pray as led.

I also pray that He have His will in all such matters and in all such prayers.

I see prayer as a kind of . . . calling on, enlisting, God in our sphere . . . inviting His intervention, giving Him (in the face of satan’s-since-Adam’s fall-legal authority) request and permission as a human to intervene yet again in human affairs . . . I trust God to take of my prayers whatever He wishes and to ignore whatever He wishes. He knows that. I know that.

At some point, it doesn’t really matter what others know or think about my dialogues on such scores with God.

I do know that when Holy Spirit rises up within me with such declarations, prayers, assertions . . . God tends to do some very interesting things in response in such situations.

I figure it’s HIS RIGHT, being God Almighty and such.


4,517 posted on 01/18/2010 10:55:10 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg
One more go at this, as a bibliophile, and then I'll let it be.

Some of the best deals going in affordable books for the book addict are on Amazon.com. Search for the book and then go to their used section linked right there on every book page. There's a way to scan through listings for marked-down-new or gently-used books, in ascending price order, to find one in "very good" or "like new" or even "brand new" condition.

In this case:

New Second Edition Hardcover $13 delivered.

4,518 posted on 01/18/2010 10:57:07 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Mad Dawg; Quix; markomalley; Alamo-Girl

My edition of the Catechism is the 1994 Libreria Editrice Vaticana. I understand it was edited by Christoph Schönborn, Cardinal Archbishop of Vienna, under the auspices of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, then Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, now Pope Benedict XVI. Both men are world-class scholars. I highly recommend this edition.


4,519 posted on 01/18/2010 10:58:27 AM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Blogger; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Thanks.

Probably so.

Do YOU notice some kind of strange duplicity in all these exhortations?

It’s really a very . . . convoluted THE MATRIX sort of feeling . . .

Folks who feel so free to slice and dice my heart and spirit in the bloodiest ways so eagerly at the drop of a hat day in day out month in month out . . . year in year out . . .

are here defending the indefensible???

. . . playing all lily white and super compassionate regarding supporters of bably torture?????

. . . essentially blazingly outraged at my . . . !!!!PRAYER!!!!

Amazing.

Boggles my mind.


4,520 posted on 01/18/2010 10:59:16 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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