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To: sr4402
The Door is Open, but Mankind, being Dead in Trespasses and Sin, Spiritually Deaf, Dumb and Blind, with the Nature of the Old Man, will not.

Sorry, but I find that to be unbiblical. Luke 15 pretty well says otherwise.

60 posted on 01/05/2010 12:34:31 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
The Door is Open, but Mankind, being Dead in Trespasses and Sin, Spiritually Deaf, Dumb and Blind, with the Nature of the Old Man, will not.

Sorry, but I find that to be unbiblical. Luke 15 pretty well says otherwise.

So the Apostle Paul and Isaiah were wrong huh? This is all from Ephesians and Isaiah.

Most folks do not go down the Roman Road fully, they do not go back to where Romans 3 came from: the duplicated Psalm (14 and 53). Which says that God looked over all Humanity to see if Anyone Understands God, Anyone who does Good, anyone who seeks for Him and He found NONE!

This is where Paul Quotes Psalm 14 and 53 saying 'as it is written,"THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."'

It is normal for folks not to believe this, for it takes faith to do so. The idea that Man does not naturally seek God grates against the flesh and against our pride. For God gives no room for man to boast as it says in Ephesians 2:9 "so that no one can boast."

I believed my choice of God earned me Salvation at one point and then an Elder had me memorize these Scriptures. I was stunned at how helpless Mankind is, really up the creek without a paddle. Nobody sought God on their own - just as the scriptures above say.

Until one takes those Scriptures at face value, you can never understand the hard scriptures - Especially those mentioning Predestination or Election. And not only that but "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation." For if Man chose, there would be Tribes and Nations missing.

72 posted on 01/05/2010 1:05:36 PM PST by sr4402
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