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To: Gamecock
Since each Protestant has his own beliefs, each Protestant is his own church of one, there really is no Protestant Church, or Presbyterian Church or any doctrine that is adhered to. QUESTION: What kind of a religion, after almost 500 years can't even decide if Jesus Christ is God?

ANSWER: That religion is Protestantism, where every individual is his own final authority, his own pope, dogmatic council, and church of one, and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is decided or ever will be.

Today's Protestant may not realize it or admit it, but he is his own authority of one, there are no denominations, just individuals picking what they want to accept, and reading into the bible what he wants.

EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that so-called Protestants believe, is not even believed by the others WITHIN THEIR OWN DENOMINATION AND WITHIN THEIR OWN CHURCH BUILDING. NOTHING is decided among Protestants, NOT EVEN THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST!

There is no such conflict among Catholics. For a Catholic, religion is a matter of dogmatic certitude. A Catholic either believes the dogmas of the Faith or he is not a Catholic, but a heretic, and outside of the Church. That is the bottom line difference between any and all Protestant denominations and the Catholic Church!

6 posted on 01/03/2010 10:57:52 PM PST by verdadjusticia
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To: verdadjusticia

As how it should be, or should protestants incorporate pagan rituals as well?


8 posted on 01/03/2010 11:22:28 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: verdadjusticia

“.. each Protestant has his own beliefs, each Protestant is his own church of one ...” ~ verdadjusticia

Each Catholic has his own beliefs, each Catholic is his own church of one:

Monday, November 10, 2008
Biden’s bishop

On Nov. 4, one of Bishop William Francis Malooly’s parishioners, Joe Biden, was elected the nation’s first Catholic vice president. With Biden’s support for some legalization of abortion, U.S. Catholics are sure to watch how Malooly, installed in September as Bishop of Wilmington, Del., handles this tricky pastoral task,

I grabbed Malooly, who is here in Baltimore for a meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, to ask his thoughts on the matter.

Have you met with Vice-president elect Biden since the election?

I have not. We spoke the night before my installation and said we’d like to get together, but between the two of us, he’s got the tougher schedule.

You’ve criticized some Biden’s statements on church teaching, what will be your policy with him going forward, specifically with regard to him receiving Communion in your diocese?

Everyone knew where I was coming from when I was installed. In my homily, and in my pastoral experience, I have always said that I expect Catholics in the electorate, in my diocese, to consider life issues primary in their voting and listen to what the Catholic Church teaches. With regard to the theology of the church, I have to teach. Any public official, whether he’s a ballplayer or a politician, has to form his own conscience and heart in accordance with that teaching.

Is there a bright line for you, that if Biden crosses —such as throwing his weight behind embryonic stem cell research­that would cause you to deny him Communion in your diocese?

I haven’t thought that far ahead. This is somewhat of a new role for me, but I am conscious of the teaching role of this position.

What would you say to those Catholics who argue that it’s incumbent on you to protect church teaching by denying Biden Communion?

I respect what they have to say about being concerned for the sacrament but I have to follow my own conscience. I have be sure … not to alienate one of the Catholics for whom I am responsible.

Posted by Daniel Burke at 2:33 pm
http://www.religionnews.com/index.php?/rnsblog/month/2008/11/


13 posted on 01/04/2010 12:04:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("The Role of Government is to Secure Our Liberty, Not to Seize It" ~ Rush 6/26/09)
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To: verdadjusticia

I think you covered it very succintly.

That is why there is one Catholic Church, while there are a bizillion protestant “churches”, and growing.

As to who’s right - we’ll all know in 100 years... give or take.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 12:33:58 AM PST by aquila48
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To: verdadjusticia

hahahahahaha... You are funny.

It is obvious that you have never really spoken to Roman Catholics about their particular beliefs on many biblical issues. If so, you would find a “gazillion” different beliefs, a term someone else used here. Roam Catholics are just all lumped under the same roof - because they find comfort in that (and so belittle those not under their roof). Being under the same roof, does not mean they all have the same belief. Not at all. At least the Protestants have the honesty to know that they disagree on the minor issues, and so they group themselves together on those issues.

For instance, I know of a Roman catholic who firmly believes that lies come in all colors, not just “white lies”, but depending on the lie, it would be color-coded (white, pink, blue, purple, etc). And only certain colors are really condemned by God, and others He just ignores. And they teach that. Really! Then, there is that nun who insists that I take communion when I come to mass, knowing full well that I am not a Romanist. Of course, her sister (blood sister) would be infuriated if I did. These are just many of hundreds and hundreds of examples I could state. Many here could state others. Not to even mention that unspeakable that pedophiles were sanctioned to continue to practice their sexual beliefs on innocent children.

I could then ask you a QUESTION: What kind of religion do you subscribe to that allows all sorts of rampart and diverse and also unspeakable things, even blatant paganism to continue, just because to stop it would mean major divisions and the “one-roof” idea would collapse into many, many diverse sections of beliefs? And a lot of income would be lost? At least with Protestants, you know what others believe. Of course, unlike you, I am excluding those who may call them Christians, but deny basic Christian tenets - who aren’t even Christians, much less Protestants

I know many Roman Catholic families who go from parish to parish looking for one that teaches and practices what they belief. Or, just as Protestans do, people will sadly leave a parish after many years because the teaching has drifted into what they cannot agree with anymore. What is the difference? You base your argument on the fact that Protestants all believe vastly different things, but yet, so do the Romanists. And if you would take the time to do serious research, you would see that there is not really that much difference between most denominations on the basics. Same with the Romanists. Don’t just parrot what you has been drilled into you. Do your own research.

If people do not believe that Jesus Christ is God, then they are not Christians. Just because they think they are does not make them so. You do not understand the difference in denominations. Yes, it is a fact there are many, but not as many as you have been led to believe. But do not use non-belief in His divinity as an argument against Protestants. It is silly, because they are not Christians. Sad to say, many denominations have fallen away from Truth. But the same can be said of many, many Roman Catholic teachers and their individual flocks. That will not change until Jesus Christ returns.

What is more appetizing to you: a casserole of many, many, ingredients, several of which you are allergic to; or all the ingredients served separately where you don’t have to eat the ones that might kill you or at least leave a very nasty taste in your mouth? The answer is that there is no one best answer because some people’s systems can tolerate more or different poisons than others. But is it right for a casserole only eater to spite the individual ingredients when it has never really tasted them individually, just the blended taste of the casserole? Much less condemn the ingredients to hell? (Perhaps even the poisons make them more liable to all the condeming???) Who knows?

The LORD God Jesus Christ knows. He knows all of His flock and has since before the foundation of the earth, regardless of which physical building they worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. He knows them, regardless of who they hang out with. He knows them and keeps them no matter which ways they tend to go astray. And He is the Great Shepherd. He knows who are His and He leads them where He desires them to be. His ways are above our ways. We just simply won’t know until we see Him face to face.


39 posted on 01/04/2010 5:59:31 AM PST by lupie
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To: verdadjusticia
A Catholic either believes the dogmas of the Faith or he is not a Catholic, but a heretic, and outside of the Church. That is the bottom line difference between any and all Protestant denominations and the Catholic Church!

I willingly, boldly, proudly, and loudly declare that I am a heretic in the view of the Catholic religion...And I wouldn't have it any other way...

111 posted on 01/04/2010 9:29:58 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: verdadjusticia
"A Catholic either believes the dogmas of the Faith or he is not a Catholic, but a heretic, and outside of the Church."

And . . . ?

What does Catholic dogma require that the Church do about heretics?

168 posted on 01/04/2010 2:57:59 PM PST by YHAOS
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