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To: Petronski
I wish I were as good a person as my imaginings.

Should we just live with lies about what we believe?

Well, IF we are right to be Catholic, as of course I think we are, we should expect that there will be lies and that until the Lord comes again we will not be able to eradicate them.

And until He comes again, His orders are to go and make disciples of all nations ... .

We are to be an apostolic and evangelical people. And the Evangel which we are to proclaim and to represent is a Gospel of Love.

As the psalmist says, God is wily with the crooked (cum perverso perverteris.) We think that we teach the true Gospel, but our teaching is useless if we present it offensively or incredibly. We think that to enter into full communion in the Catholic Church is to enter into the lushest pastures by the purest and most refreshing streams.

One of the first things I learned as a shepherd was that it didn't help a thing if I got angry with my sheep. Worst case, they'd just keel over and croak. But the object of the game was to get them into the good paddock or into the chutes for treatment or into the barn out of the sleet. It didn't matter whose fault it was if they didn't go where it was good for them to go. They were just as sick or dead if it was their fault as they were if it was mine.

So I get angry and snotty, and it's a disgrace, and our brothers and sisters miss just as much of the joy as if I'd stayed calm, only now they know one Catholic who makes NOT being Catholic seem like a good idea. Not exactly what I had in mind ...

'Scuse the oozing piety. As I said, I'm not as good as I need to be.

131 posted on 01/04/2010 11:13:47 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg
...we should expect that there will be lies and that until the Lord comes again we will not be able to eradicate them...

Well, there is greater meaning in the idiom "live with it" than your answer might indicate.

Eradicating hatred is not going to be accomplished in this world, certainly not by me.

But to the extent "live with it" implies a sense of "just get over it, there's nothing you can do, tolerate it, etc.," I must disagree. Lies and hatred must not be accepted blithely, they must be clearly labeled as such, and condemned, as often as possible.

Think of a similar idiom "let them get away with it." If I say I'm not going to let them get away with it, it does not mean I intend to stop them from speaking, no. It means it will not go on unchallenged.

And all this bleating about "insisting we call them Catholic" is equally false. I haven't insisted anyone call me Catholic. I have condemned them for refusing to do so.

I have quite consistently said, you might have noticed, that I am glad anti-Catholic bigots post what's in their (tarry-black) hearts, that they might be known by their fruits.

With apologies to Abraham Lincoln, I prefer to take my anti-Catholic hatred pure, without the base alloy of hypocrisy.

134 posted on 01/04/2010 11:28:53 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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