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To: runninglips
1)Genesis 1 and 2 are just different naratives of the same event.

1) They are very different to my eyes, Chapter 2 begins after the 7th day

1) But chapter 2 begins with the fact that God ENDED his creative work. He was done creating. "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made;" So, He couldn't have created Adam after that.

2)The Bible doesn’t mention any other people that Cain went to after the murder of Abel. It does say that he went to live in the land of Nod. He took his wife with him, which of course would have also been his sister, as there wasn’t anyone else around to marry.

2) He bore a “mark”...so as to not be killed by any people that came upon him.....His geneaology is stricken from that of Adam....there was no sister mentioned as going away with him.

2) God tells Cain that he will be a "fugitive and a vagabond". He is being sent AWAY from people. Cain is worried about someone FINDING him and killing him. As far as Adam's genealogy is concerned, he had other sons and daughters other than Cain, Abel, and Seth. They aren't mentioned by name either. The genealogies in the bible are there to show the lineage of the Messiah. Christ isn't of the line of Cain. Many women aren't mentioned in the bible. It is mostly patriarchal.

3)The tribes of Israel happen much later, and really have nothing to do with creation.

3) The tribes of Israel can be directly traced to Adam and Eve through Seth.

3) Of course all the tribes of Israel are from the line of Seth. But you had used the fact that there were many tribes of Israel as support that God created many people groups at the beginning. I just pointed out that it does not support that.

The Bible is a history book of the people descended from Adam, it mentions others only peripherally if at all.

Can you point out even one person in the bible that is obviously not descended from Adam?

Some of the names of Satan are, the serpent, death, man of sin, King of Tyre, Prince of Tyre, Son of Perdition, even Father of Cain.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. He's called "lord of the flies", too. But that doesn't make him the actual lord of the flies.

11 posted on 01/03/2010 10:28:40 PM PST by igotsix
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To: igotsix
Can you point out even one person in the bible that is obviously not descended from Adam?

More to the point (and not meaning to correct you), The Table of Nations... EVERYBODY... relates everyone to Noah. If genealogy is meant to have any particular reference, it begins with Noah and his family.

The purpose for the listing of men before that is to prove the age of the world, and the genealogy of Christ in his role and comparison as "THE" Adam - The first of the resurrected.

Not to say that the other aspects of the creation account are not without immense value...

15 posted on 01/10/2010 3:21:42 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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