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To: HarleyD; Gamecock; Alex Murphy
"it is a very rare thing, that a heart disposed to value any relics whatever should not become to a certain degree polluted by some superstition."

Amen.

Thanks, Harley. Isn't that just a great understanding of the pitfalls of elevating earthly relics to something spiritual when they are, in fact, just objects awaiting dust?

Calvin was so fearful of the lure to glorify things and men other than God he specified in his will that he be buried with no headstone so there would be nothing left of him other than his writing.

"I admit that people do not arrive at once at open idolatry, but they gradually advance from one abuse to another until they fall into this extremity, and, indeed, those who call themselves Christians have, in this respect, idolatrized as much as Pagans ever did. They have prostrated themselves, and knelt before relics, just as if they were worshipping God; they have burnt candles before them in sign of homage; they have placed their confidence in them, and have prayed to them, as if the virtue and the grace of God had entered into them. Now, if idolatry be nothing else than the transfer elsewhere of the honor which is due to God, can it be denied that this is idolatry? This cannot be excused by pretending that it was only the improper zeal of some idiots or foolish women, for it was a general custom approved by those who had the government of the church, and who had even placed the bones of the dead and other relics on the high altar, in the greatest and most prominent places, in order that they should be worshipped with more certainty..."

Sounds like some of our Romanist FRiends, doesn't it?

58 posted on 12/17/2009 8:43:16 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I have to say I haven't read much Calvin, but if this is an example of his "reasoning", I don't understand why anyone would follow him.

You can distill his argument into this analogy:

Some people hurt themselves with hammers. Those who provide hammers know this. Even those who skillfully use hammers for other purposes might hit their thumb too. We know, and admit that this is a rarity. However, we should ignore any other uses hammers may have besides hurting people - they must be banned from everyone and those who provided them prosecuted.

Does that about sum up his reasoning?
59 posted on 12/18/2009 6:56:11 AM PST by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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