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To: Iscool
In addition, it's the belief that gets you saved, not the baptism...

So you saved yourself?
YOU were saved on such & such a day when
YOU decided that
YOUR belief would be something passing muster with God? Who gets the glory & credit there? (An awful lot of YOUs and YOURs in that system)

(Let's face it: Even a confession of belief is 100% the Holy Spirit...No one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit" -- 1 Cor. 12:3...My point is that it's Somebody Else who's inside of us -- the Holy Spirit the Prompter -- and Somebody Else who transcends us -- Jesus Christ the Savior -- who saves us. I'm sure you meant more than that, but you make it sound like checklist Christianity...believe this & that, and you're saved).

Besides, what did Jesus say?

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved... (Mark 16:16)

If belief was all that was required, Jesus would have stopped right there. Now I know the rest of the verse makes it clear, as does the unbaptized thief on the cross, that God can and does work around baptism in keeping people from condemnation. So I don't ignore that, either. You can't interpret Mark 16:16 to say Jesus belittled or dissed baptism by ranking it of no importance...which, BTW, you keep doing.

Since you were ignorant of Matthew 28:18-20 -- which is the very commission upon which worldwide disciple-making is based, it doesn't surprise me to see you diss baptism in other ways as well.

259 posted on 12/17/2009 1:05:06 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Colofornian
Since you were ignorant of Matthew 28:18-20 -- which is the very commission upon which worldwide disciple-making is based, it doesn't surprise me to see you diss baptism in other ways as well.

You're kind of a nasty piece of work...Why don't you just go and try to impress someone else...

279 posted on 12/17/2009 2:32:03 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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