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To: Mad Dawg
This is the kind of thing that helps one develop a sense of the absurd.

Ha, in other words, don't pay any attention to what you see, what we do or what you hear...It looks like worship, it quacks like worship, it walks like worship but you just don't understand because you do not have mastery over the Trivial arts, grammar, logic, and rhetoric like we do...

Yep, poor ole simple Protestants just don't understand that asking Mary to provide grace and salvation isn't worship...

522 posted on 12/09/2009 8:48:10 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
Yep, poor ole simple Protestants just don't understand that asking Mary to provide grace and salvation isn't worship.

It would be worship if it were asking Mary to "provide grace and salvation" independent of God, instead of asking Mary to ask God for grace and salvation on my behalf.

"Iscool, pray for me to God that I may be a better and more loving Christian disciple"

There. I just "worshipped" you. Do you feel particularly more divine?

(BTW, my request is not tongue in cheek at all.)

532 posted on 12/09/2009 9:05:13 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Iscool
As long as it's restricted to poor ole simple folk (not necessarily Protestants) I think that may be more or less correct.

We sneaky devious Catholics think that deeds have at least two aspects, that part which can be photographed and the disposition of the person doing the deed. The "object" of the deed, what the person doing it thinks he's doing and intends by it, is greatly determinative of what the deed actually is, If a person does not INTEND to pay divine honors, does not think the person in front of whose image he is to be divine, then I think it's not a stretch to say he is not paying divine honors.

Somewhat similarly, some pacifists insist that any killing of a human being is murder, while people accustomed to making reasonable distinctions can see the difference between defense of the weak and murder.

I enjoy the "I'm a poor old simple country boy and I don't know none o' that there book larnin' stuff," act, but since even poor ole country boys know the difference between a righteous shoot and murder, I'm thinking the distinction is probably pretty easy to get.

Expressing it, however, that might be a challenge.

570 posted on 12/09/2009 9:52:56 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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