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To: markomalley
(Please to note, this is not to say that Catholics were all wonderful and without sin during those years either...but that wasn't the question)

The pictures you posted were anti-RC. My question was why people would see RC's as a threat to liberty. You brought up the question with the silly knee jerk "everybody is picking on us stuff".

As with anything context is important. The prejudice against RC's was wrong, but when you look at all the persecution perpetrated by the RCC it was understandable. The RCC had no prior history of being at the forefront of individual liberty.

497 posted on 12/09/2009 6:14:05 AM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights
The RCC had no prior history of being at the forefront of individual liberty.

The concept and development of individual liberty was a whole lot more complex than "Catholics nay, Protestants yea". It has roots in Protestant ideas, and Catholic ideas, and causes some trouble with traditional ideas in both camps. There's a reason why many of the Founding Fathers weren't very orthodox Christians.

England at the height of the Reformation -- whether under Mary, Elizabeth, or James -- was not a very free country.

501 posted on 12/09/2009 6:41:01 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: wmfights

One word: Bartolome de las Casas

Okay that’s 4 words.


502 posted on 12/09/2009 6:44:41 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wmfights; Campion; Mad Dawg
You brought up the question with the silly knee jerk "everybody is picking on us stuff".

Actually, it's not a "knee jerk" thing at all.

It's more of a mockery. Something along the lines of, "you can do better...your forefathers sure did."

651 posted on 12/09/2009 4:48:47 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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