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To: the_conscience
An equivocation.

What PRECISELY do you mean? Are suggesting that I intended to be equivocal? If so my fears for trying once again to deal with you with courtesy are once again justified.

If you do not mean to characterize my intention, then you MUST be able to show PRECISELY where a word or a phrase was used in a dual sense, which is what "equivocal" implies

If every good work is grace, does that mean that when Hindu feeds the poor he is acting out of grace or that it is not a good work?

If there were a dishonest man at your church who claimed to be saved but was notoriously dishonest in his dealings would you buy a used car from him rather than from an atheist with a reputation for square dealing?

That's not meant as a trap.

For the rest, every good gift comes from God. The only thing any human can contribute without God's involvement is sin. That is Catholic teaching.

226 posted on 12/08/2009 4:27:42 PM PST by Mad Dawg
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To: Mad Dawg
then you MUST be able to show PRECISELY where a word or a phrase was used in a dual sense, which is what "equivocal" implies

You equivocated on the source of goodness.

If every good work is grace, does that mean that when Hindu feeds the poor he is acting out of grace or that it is not a good work?

Grace. In this instance a common grace God gives to restrain man from utter depravity.

If there were a dishonest man at your church who claimed to be saved but was notoriously dishonest in his dealings would you buy a used car from him rather than from an atheist with a reputation for square dealing?

If he was a notorious sinner who was plagued with continual sin in a specific area then it is the Churches responsibility to counsel the sinner to repent of that particular sin. Whatever secular dealings I might have with him is really irrelevant to his faith and would depend upon many variables including my own knowledge of his secular vocation.

For the rest, every good gift comes from God. The only thing any human can contribute without God's involvement is sin. That is Catholic teaching.

Understood. But we've come to the chicken or the egg question in our discussion.

308 posted on 12/08/2009 6:59:39 PM PST by the_conscience (I'm a bigot: Against Jihadists and those who support despotism of any kind.)
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