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To: NYer; T Minus Four; Poe White Trash; wagglebee; Petronski
...there is a central authority figure which is lacking in the 30,000+ Non-Catholic christian denominations.

Hard to take a post seriously when you see this stuff. The last time the number was 40,000 what happened?

Do non-Catholic christian churches have such a plan in place? Have you ever undergone such scrutiny in your church? I have!

Yes.

We have an even better system, it doesn't completely eliminate this problem, but it hasn't been as bad as what your church has experienced. Our clergy are usually heterosexual married men.

Most non-Catholic Churches do not have central authority figures which makes identification of sexual abusers and victims very difficult.

Maybe the problem was never as bad because we didn't let as many homosexuals get ordained. As I understand it, your church has become tougher on letting the homosexuals become clergy and the problem has been in decline for awhile.

208 posted on 11/25/2009 4:43:00 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; Clemenza
Hard to take a post seriously when you see this stuff. The last time the number was 40,000 what happened?

I was going to post that number but chose to go more conservative. You tell me ... how many non-Catholic Churches are there in the world? 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 ... who can keep track? The Lutheran Church has just split again after I'm not sure how many other splits. Luther opened a "Pandora's Box" when he insisted that the Bible could be interpreted by individuals and that It is the sole authority of Christianity. Why do we have so many different non-Catholic Christian denominations? The reason is individuals' "different" interpretations of the Bible.

We have an even better system, it doesn't completely eliminate this problem, but it hasn't been as bad as what your church has experienced. Our clergy are usually heterosexual married men.

Celibacy bears no causal relation to any type of deviant sexual addiction including pedophilia. In fact, married men are just as likely as celibate priests to sexually abuse children (Jenkins, Priests and Pedophilia). In the general population, the majority of abusers are regressed heterosexual men who sexually abuse girls. Women are also found to be among those sexual abusers. While it's difficult to obtain accurate statistics on childhood sexual abuse, the characteristic patterns of repeat child sex offenders have been well described. The profiles of child molesters never include normal adults who become erotically attracted to children as a result of abstinence (Fred Berlin, "Compulsive Sexual Behaviors" in Addiction and Compulsive Behaviors [Boston: NCBC, 1998]; Patrick J. Carnes, "Sexual Compulsion: Challenge for Church Leaders" in Addiction and Compulsion; Dale O'Leary, "Homosexuality and Abuse").

Maybe the problem was never as bad because we didn't let as many homosexuals get ordained.

Sexual Abuse by Protestant Clergy

211 posted on 11/25/2009 4:59:46 PM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
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To: wmfights; NYer; T Minus Four; Poe White Trash; wagglebee; Dr. Eckleburg; Petronski
Not really interested in discussing sexual abuse and misconduct, but I ran across this and thought you might find it interesting:

with an eye for the greater good.

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Part%202.pdf/Files/Part%202.pdf.

As usual, the Devil is in the details.

240 posted on 11/26/2009 11:35:35 AM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: wmfights; NYer; T Minus Four; Poe White Trash; wagglebee; Petronski

Those who use 30K Non-Catholic christian denominations...or 40 K or whatever else they feel...do so either from ignorance or dishonesty.

See: http://www.ntrmin.org/30000denominations.htm


310 posted on 11/27/2009 1:22:57 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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