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To: Mr Rogers; blue-duncan; kosta50; wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

You repat stuff I previously corrected. The Church IS called body of Christ. It does not mean Christ did not have a real body, and that every time the body of Christ is mentioned we are to substitute “Church” (wordgames never end: “church”, you suggested earlier, itself should be substituted with “assembly”). In 1 Cor. 11 verses immediately preceding the reference to “unworthiness” and “condemnation” do not allow such substitution to be made. The unworthines is lack of belief in the Real Presence, and the body to be discerned is the historical real body of Christ. Again, you amputate parts of the gospel to serve your theological fantasies.


1,418 posted on 12/12/2009 9:08:09 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; blue-duncan; kosta50; wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg

Of COURSE Jesus had a real body. It was his real body hanging on the cross.

In Chapter 11 of 1 Corinthians, however, Paul is dealing with the Church, and how it is taking the Eucharist so badly as to not take it at all, because it does so with divisions, humiliating the poor, drunkenness, etc.

And in chapters 12-14, Paul discusses spiritual gifts, and how they are to be used to build up the body of Christ which is the Church.

And at the end of chapter 11, in this discussion of how to behave in church [or assembly, or congregation...I still prefer the latter, and haven’t changed on that point], he tells them that by their behavior they fail to discern the body of Christ.

Now, did he suddenly stop his discussion on the need to realize that the assembly at Corinth is the Body of Christ, and that they shouldn’t unite themselves with idols by eating sacrifices to idols, and they shouldn’t promote divisions and strife in the assembly by their behavior, and suddenly switch gears for a couple of verses to address transubstantiation? And then immediately switch back for the next 3 chapters?

I suppose it is possible, but the burden of evidence is on you. My explanation of the verses makes them agree with his topic throughout most of the entire book of 1 Corinthians. Yours has it a couple of verses dropped from nowhere to discuss a subject that has very little to do with anything else in 1 Corinthians.


1,424 posted on 12/13/2009 2:38:15 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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